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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    Anyone who says International football means nothing to our players, please take a look at Andy Keogh's celebration on Saturday. It meant the world to him.
    You're right. It was a great celebration considering they arent supposed to care.

    Just wait and see if we get some decent results the whole mood would change very quickly. The atmosphere in the ground..the attitude of the press...the fans...

    It wouldnt take too much. There is still a love for the team out there.

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    He kissed the badge. It was a class moment. I didn't see it at the match(Hill 16), but when I got home it made me feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    Jinkxy might you have any suggestions on what the solutions are to our atmospheric problems?
    I do... put a lid on the stadium and pump in nitrous oxide.

    great atmosphere - presmably poor football.

    well 1 out of 2 is better than 0 out of 2

    Terrible game.... I thought Richard Dunne was one of the worst on the park. Gave the ball straight to them every time.

    On atmospheres: Landsdown hasnt been all that great in recent years

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    Quote Originally Posted by bholg View Post
    On atmospheres: Landsdown hasnt been all that great in recent years
    The atmosphere at Lansdowne was in decline since the early 90's.

    The atmosphere at the qualifiers for Italia 90 (in '89) were vocal and intense and drove the players on. I recall continuous chants and singing a full hour before the Hungary game in '89. Once we qualified for a World Cup it wasn't long before the ignorami were in attendance throughout the West Stand.

    When the bucket seats were added and we lost the terraces (FAI had no option on this one as all grounds had to be all-seater unless you got a dispensation) it destroyed the atmosphere completely. That communal and almost tribal vibe that is unique to a terrace was lost.
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    For those that regularly go to home games when was the last game that had a truly electrifying atmosphere? I wasn't there but would I be right in saying against Holland in 2001? I remember Van Gaal coming up with all sorts of excuses after the game and saying it was so loud that he couldn't get his instructions across to the players. Has there been any game since then with such an atmosphere? I can't believe that is almost 7 years ago now. I nearly bit my fingers off (the nails were gone before half-time) when listening to it on the radio.

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    Its been a long time since there has been any atmosphere at Ireland home games, a bell ringing apart. Portugal at home the same year is the last one I can remember. The France game 05' had a nervous tension to it but it disipated after henry scored.

    Croke park has been awful so far in terms of atmosphere.
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    I've been going to Ireland games since 200 and without doubt Holland 2001 was the greatest game i've been at. Unbelievable. The atmosphere before the French game a few years back was electric too. Unfortunately not many apart from them two...


    Croke Park really takes the biscuit though. Full of f*cking daytrippers. Am I one of the few who now refuses to take part in Mexican waves especially when we're losing?

    I hate Mexican waves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red&White Rover View Post
    I've been going to Ireland games since 200 and without doubt Holland 2001 was the greatest game i've been at. Unbelievable. The atmosphere before the French game a few years back was electric too. Unfortunately not many apart from them two...


    Croke Park really takes the biscuit though. Full of f*cking daytrippers. Am I one of the few who now refuses to take part in Mexican waves especially when we're losing?

    I hate Mexican waves.

    What's the story with this whole my sh*te smells sweeter than those people who participate in a Mexican wave on this site? I've noticed it a number of times. Seems a bit snobbish tbh in my opinion for a working class man's sport like football.

    Probably more suited to a tennis or rugby match.

    I'll be in London tonight. I'm going to try to start one to p*ss you all off particularly if we are getting hammered.

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    If you want atmosphere at an Irish game then you have to go to the away games I'm afraid. Croke Park is like a morgue when the football is on. I've heard people behind me say "who does Duff play for nowadays?". Clearly we have a lot of people going to the games who aren't football fans - consequently the atmosphere suffers.

    Maybe it is because we have had nothing to play for? Maybe it is because the players have not put in an inspired performance to raise the roof and blood pressure? Even still it's sad that a 70,000 crowd can hardly raise a whisper. If you stand up your told to sit down, if you shout too loudly your looked upon as a lunatic. Sterile and stale. Something needs to be done but solutions are not easy to come by. We have one song and when that is repeated 15 times we start the mexican wave!

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    What's the story with this whole my sh*te smells sweeter than those people who participate in a Mexican wave on this site? I've noticed it a number of times. Seems a bit snobbish tbh in my opinion for a working class man's sport like football.

    Probably more suited to a tennis or rugby match.

    I'll be in London tonight. I'm going to try to start one to p*ss you all off particularly if we are getting hammered.
    Your post comes across as stupid.
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    I've noticed that it is a bit dead in Croker but the atmosphere away from home is unbelievable.

    I was watching the England match last night and heard a few times throughout the game they were singing their national anthem. Why can't we do that? It gets everyones hair on their neck up and the start of the game. Why not try it throughout the match it will definitely motivate the lads. I'm sure it would even get the prawn sandwich eaters of their bums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    Your post comes across as stupid.
    Coming from a man who on another forum earlier thought Jim Broadbent was only in Indiana Jones because Lucas and Spielberg had been fans of Only Fools and Horses and decided to give a struggling actor from an episode 25 years ago a cameo. Are you for real?

    If that's an indication of your high and mighty intelligence I'll take your put down as a compliment thanks very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_barry80 View Post
    I've noticed that it is a bit dead in Croker but the atmosphere away from home is unbelievable.

    I was watching the England match last night and heard a few times throughout the game they were singing their national anthem. Why can't we do that? It gets everyones hair on their neck up and the start of the game. Why not try it throughout the match it will definitely motivate the lads. I'm sure it would even get the prawn sandwich eaters of their bums.
    Ah now in fairness, England has hardly the atmosphere we want to emulate. They have the same problem as us.

    I do agree about the anthem though. That would be class. But could you imagine 'west brits' starting Amhran na bhfiann mid match in Croker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_barry80 View Post
    I've noticed that it is a bit dead in Croker but the atmosphere away from home is unbelievable.

    I was watching the England match last night and heard a few times throughout the game they were singing their national anthem. Why can't we do that? It gets everyones hair on their neck up and the start of the game. Why not try it throughout the match it will definitely motivate the lads. I'm sure it would even get the prawn sandwich eaters of their bums.
    I agree totally. Every game I've been to at Croke Park has been dire in terms of atmosphere. I missed the home Slovakia game which I heard had a great atmosphere - don't think it's a coincidence that this was our best performance at Croke Park. But was it the crowd that got the players going or vice versa? It's usually a bit of both i suppose.

    The national anthem would be a more than welcome addition to "stand up the boys in green" and simply "Ireland". At least we'd have three chants/songs then!

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    Its like Groundhog Day here after everygame regarding the atsmosphere, everybody knows the problems, everybody knows part of the solution but realistically there is sweet FA we can do about it other than bombard the FAI wrt a singing section for LR. - Croke Park is beyond help, there is more atsmosphere on Mars

    Saturday was particularily bad especially those leaving early and especially it being Traps 1st game. My own excuse - miscalulated the amount of alcohol I could consume, hot weather etc and was slightly inebriated during the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    What's the story with this whole my sh*te smells sweeter than those people who participate in a Mexican wave on this site? I've noticed it a number of times. Seems a bit snobbish tbh in my opinion for a working class man's sport like football.

    Probably more suited to a tennis or rugby match.

    I'll be in London tonight. I'm going to try to start one to p*ss you all off particularly if we are getting hammered.
    We definitely do need to do something about the atmosphere, but mexican waves are not the answer. I can begrudgingly accept them in a friendly but at any point during a qualifier they are not helpful at all. Even if you are standing, people jumping up and waving their hands prevents you from seeing what is happening on the pitch, and IMO it does affect the players, particularly when people start booing when the mexican wave isn't continued on around the whole stadium. When the booing begins the players often seem to be bewildered as to what is going on and lose concentration, probably because they're wondering why half the stadium is booing.

    If there were more people willing to think up of new songs there would be very little demand for a mexican wave. You don't see mexican waves at the Bernabau, the Nou Camp, the San Siro or Anfield, along with other stadiums with top atmospheres. IMO all they are is a tacky Americanisation of our sports.

    Without meaning to insult you, you have admitted in the past to not really going to Ireland games regularly. Now, if I stayed at home to watch the matches then I would have no real understanding of what is wrong with a mexican wave at the game. Perhaps once you start going to games you'll see why they're so unwelcome.
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    The dreaded mexican wave is not a new phenonmenon lads - its been ****ing people off at Ireland games for at least 20 years!!!!
    Quoting years at random since 1975

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    Simple problem with people singing the national anthem is that most people's grasp of Irish is abysmal & you'd get coordinated mumbling across the stands as the crowd bluffed their way through the lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmurphyc View Post
    Without meaning to insult you, you have admitted in the past to not really going to Ireland games regularly. Now, if I stayed at home to watch the matches then I would have no real understanding of what is wrong with a mexican wave at the game. Perhaps once you start going to games you'll see why they're so unwelcome.
    The usual ill informed tripe from jmurphy. Did you just make the above assumption up that I've no history of going to games or did it have some actual basis in reality? Maybe you seen an old post and removed that most important word recently from it when referring to my attendance at Ireland matches.

    In the past I've gone to many Ireland games. I was at all the home qualfiiers for both the 1990 and 1994 wc qualfiers when you were probably at home playing with your power rangers. For the past 8 years I've mostly lived and worked abroad so it's a tad difficult for me to go to every Ireland game considering I work 5 days a week in various locations far and wide. Anyway I've been at plenty of other football games besides Ireland ones on three continents so I'll go with the smart money here and state I don't really have too much to learn from yourself in this repect (here's a snippet of information for you they actually use Mexican waves at other football matches in other countries also).

    Thanks for the education. How did I get this far through life without your titbits of knowledge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    The dreaded mexican wave is not a new phenonmenon lads - its been ****ing people off at Ireland games for at least 20 years!!!!
    Exactly they were present regularly at Lansdowne in the old Charlton days when probably most of the heads giving out about them on here only followed GAA instead.

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