Referees Stood Down

[A face]

What planet have you been on for the past week

Ah i wouldn't say that, i mean theres a bright side to it too. At least he was spared by not seeing it.

[DonO'Bate]

"The Referees Committee, at its meeting of Thursday 15th May 2008, noted that two of the Elite Referees have been stood down from refereeing at eircom League of Ireland level following reports from the Referee Observers who attended their games last weekend.



The referees concerned will miss the next five series of games and will be subject to the existing process which supports referees whose performances do not meet the required standards."

JC_GUFC are you going to re-surrect your refereeing career in light of the above development?

[LeixlipRed]

but I thought overall he was ok.

Dundalk lost the plot, not the ref !!

Ah come on John!!!! He sent two players off and both times didn't realise he had done.

[sligored]

So a player acts the tit but lets blame the ref as usual.

No sympathy for the player, we need a lot more of those decisions and maybe eventually people will start to get the message and cop themselves on

so mckenzie cant play tomorrow night v bray. why. all sligo fans can accept losing to a better team cork on the night.

you cant suspend hanney for his mistake and suspend mckenzie for diving.

yet another woeful decision.

fai/eircom league take a bow

[soccerc]

JC_GUFC are you going to re-surrect your refereeing career in light of the above development?

You can't resurrect something that wasn't there in the first place

[KevB76]

so mckenzie cant play tomorrow night v bray. why. all sligo fans can accept losing to a better team cork on the night.

you cant suspend hanney for his mistake and suspend mckenzie for diving.

yet another woeful decision.

fai/eircom league take a bow

Thats not the incident I was referring to.

Why is it one ref makes a balls of things and all of a sudden its all refs are ****e all over again ?

By the way, mckenzies first yellow was excellent reffing - it was definitely a yellow becasue he attmpted to trip the Cork player, doesnt matter that he didnt actually manange to - ref allowed play to continue (not penalising Cork for McKenzies foul) and waited until the phase of play had completed before showing the yellow. Textbook stuff. Theres no defending his mistakes though, they were terrible in fairness.

[Greenforever]

Referees are essential to the game and in my opinion there is nothing to be gained by publicly humiliating them by announcing they have been stood down.

If you want to encourage more people to take up reffing we need to treat them better. Referees can be dropped from the list without any need for publicity.

As regards Referees assessors, they are not illfalible either and what looks like a illegal challenge from one angle can look perfectly good from a different angle. All we have to do is look at the TMO in rugby using multiple angles to decide if a try has been scored.

I would love to see officials on the goalline as in GAA to assist the ref in incidents in and around the penalty area, with all officials wired up together.

On a slightly different topic, i would like to see a straight red card brought in for diving in cases where there is no player between the defender and the goal, i.e. where if a free in / penalty had been given the defender would have seen red. I would also like to see a "penalty goal" as in rugby trialled on an experimental basis.

[Buile Shuibhne]

A definite candidate for some public humiliation, for his consistant colour clash phobia:

Then the visitors' manager Johnny McDonnell was asked by eagle-eyed referee Anthony Buttimer to change his navy blue top because of a clash with his team's away colours.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/...tpatricks.html

[shelsfan1]

How can Hancock go through the scenario of double booking someone and not sending them off twice and not be punished? That's farcical.

and did no one else see the keeper pickin up a back pass and handlin it outside the box in the space of 5 seconds. and the ref did nothin

[superfrank]

A definite candidate for some public humiliation, for his consistant colour clash phobia:



http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/...tpatricks.html

One can only guess that Buttimer is colour blind.

[messer]

Typical , blame the referees for everything. Of course they make mistakes, they are human. What player has not made a mistake? As for MNS , on a lot of occasions referees are slated despite the fact that the one camera that is used to cover the game does not cover the incident fully. I have seen highlights of games and based on what I could see , you could not say whether the ref was right or wrong, yet the likes of Collins (fool) is allowed to slag referees off

[micls]

Typical , blame the referees for everything. Of course they make mistakes, they are human.

Everything? If you actually read the thread you'l see they are being blamed for their mistakes

What player has not made a mistake?

There are sanctions when players make mistakes too, from yellow or red cards to being dropped for a bad performance.

Why should referees be different?

[rambler14]

From reading todays Evening Echo Tom Connolly might be joining the 5 game ban club after his performence in the Derry City vs Cobh Ramblers game.

[ramsfan]

there all s$$$e , any chance of getting eddie foley banned ,maybe for crimes against facial hair or maybe send the chocolate soldier to outer mongolia on peace keeping mission

[rambler14]

there all s$$$e , any chance of getting eddie foley banned ,maybe for crimes against facial hair or maybe send the chocolate soldier to outer mongolia on peace keeping mission

After the chant down in Ramblers last week vs Bohs it seems Eddie and his moustache might be going on World Tour of Gay Pride parades.

[JC_GUFC]

You can't resurrect something that wasn't there in the first place

That's very harsh!

Some of the Refs who were in the School of Excellence with me are now refereeing in the 1st Division, these are refs in their early 20s and have gone through a pretty thorough course.

The problem is though, that like myself, other things can come up in life for referees. I pretty much had to choose between a career or being a part-time referee.

[Réiteoir]

That's very harsh!

Some of the Refs who were in the School of Excellence with me are now refereeing in the 1st Division, these are refs in their early 20s and have gone through a pretty thorough course.

The problem is though, that like myself, other things can come up in life for referees. I pretty much had to choose between a career or being a part-time referee.

That ex-Football League bloke who was watching you on that kids game in Norway thought you looked like you could make it further tbh.

Tough decisions have to be made though...

[Greenforever]

There are sanctions when players make mistakes too, from yellow or red cards to being dropped for a bad performance.

Why should referees be different?

As Pat Dolan, said in the star, if every player who made a mistake / bad performance was dropped for 5 games, we'd have no players, mind you just as well as we'd have no refs

This is pure crap and wont improve things at all, it will just lead to more idiots thinking abuse refs and they may be stood down, instead of looking at thier own house and concentrating on getting things in order.

[soccerc]

That's very harsh!

Some of the Refs who were in the School of Excellence with me are now refereeing in the 1st Division, these are refs in their early 20s and have gone through a pretty thorough course.

The problem is though, that like myself, other things can come up in life for referees. I pretty much had to choose between a career or being a part-time referee.

ooops! I didn't add the smiley!

Granted the School of Excellence is needed but only some are reffing in the first division. Sadly many, like yourself have given up, maybe only temporarily.

Others, I see in junior and inter football and the el, sometimes only running the line, and from observing them over the past few years would not have any great confidence in their ability.

That ability may be great in theory or in the classroom, but translating that and applying common sense on the field of play doesn't seem to apply.

I'd occasions to question decisons post game and the rubbish that was trotted out to justify the errors made me wonder if they actually understood the laws of the game in application rather than as a text on a page.

That said, I wouldn't be a referee.

[JC_GUFC]

ooops! I didn't add the smiley!

Granted the School of Excellence is needed but only some are reffing in the first division. Sadly many, like yourself have given up, maybe only temporarily.

Others, I see in junior and inter football and the el, sometimes only running the line, and from observing them over the past few years would not have any great confidence in their ability.

That ability may be great in theory or in the classroom, but translating that and applying common sense on the field of play doesn't seem to apply.

I'd occasions to question decisons post game and the rubbish that was trotted out to justify the errors made me wonder if they actually understood the laws of the game in application rather than as a text on a page.

That said, I wouldn't be a referee.

I agree with what you say but throughout the school of excellence these referees are constantly assessed in their Junior or Intermediate Leagues.
I was in a group of 20 odd and only about 4 have made it to the eL, so these are the guys who obviously have the best potential in the view of the guys who run it.

These <i>are</i> the best young referees in the country so if these guys don't make the grade it will be a big struggle.

I'd say this season someone has said that every single Premier Division referee is rubbish, if these are the guys judged to be the best what do people want?

As for you approaching a referee after a match and asking over a particular decision you'll always get them just quoting the laws of the game to you. If someone I didn't know asked me about a decision I'd do the same.