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    Scully: Fenlon should quit U-23's


    Shamrock Rovers boss Pat Scully thinks that the Republic of Ireland U-23 team should not be managed by Pat Fenlon. The newly formed team picked up their second win of the International Trophy Tournament on Tuesday after beating Northern Ireland 1-0 in Lurgan. Having edged past Slovakia in their first outing back in November, the young Irish team only need one more win to reach the final of the competition.

    Bohemians manager Fenlon is in charge of the team on a part-time basis with Cork City's Alan Matthews acting as his assistant, but Scully thinks that there is a conflict of interest with their roles as they also work for eircom Premier Division clubs. "I've no problem with Pat Fenlon or Alan Matthews, but I do feel there is a potential for a conflict of interest here," Scully told the Irish Daily Mail. "Here you have two full-time managers, who have the biggest budgets of any club managers in the league and you are giving them access to the best young players in the league, many of them part-timers.

    "Let's say one of those players down the read subsequently signs for either Bohs or Cork, people will put two and two together and point to the Irish U-23 set-up as to where it all started. "That may not have been the case at all as anyone can get tapped up but it could be interpreted that way. "The only way to remove the uncertainty is to put someone in charge that has no attachments to any senior club."

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    IMO Rico would have been a good appointment if it wasn't to be Fenlon.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    "Let's say one of those players down the road subsequently signs for either Bohs or Cork, people will put two and two together and point to the Irish U-23 set-up as to where it all started.
    Referring to oneself in the plural is a pretty sure sign of impending insanity, not that it's surprising in this case (except perhaps in that it was deferred for so long.)
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    In fairness I have heard crazier arguments.Having said that any manager worth his salt should feel he knows his own player better than a guy who meets him couple of times a year.

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    And Fenlon is a rubbish boss....

    I reckon Scully is right. It's not just about knowing a player better than their own manager, it's about the potential for tapping up and unsettling a player.

    Rico should have the job IMO.
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    If I were Scully id take more interest in his own clubs personal fortunes at present. If he was offered the gig he would be on the back of the lorry before you could spell "Scully didnt get on well at all clubs he was with cos his mouth was open all the time". Hit the bricks Scully, its Fenlons gig & leave him at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pól-dcfc View Post
    And Fenlon is a rubbish boss....

    I reckon Scully is right. It's not just about knowing a player better than their own manager, it's about the potential for tapping up and unsettling a player.

    Rico should have the job IMO.
    Nail on the head.

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    Scully is just upset that he wasnt given the job

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    this is bull from scully, whats to stop anyone from going along watching the game and trying to sign one of these players down the line. Say Doolin for example. Scully should worry about where rovers are going at the minute, downhill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Scully is just upset that he wasnt given the job
    whs

    I hear that Scully was phoning the Rovers guys who had been picked for the Northern Ireland game and telling them if they travelled up and played then they would be training with the reserves for the forseeable future.

    Minnowish behaviour there - what manager would actively try to stop his players playing for their national team?
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    Scully's point might be valid if the U23's actually meant anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pól-dcfc View Post
    And Fenlon is a rubbish boss....

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    But how then can Bohs be second in the league and the U23's need only one more win to reach the final of the competition.

    Time for Scully to concentrate on SRFC
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Scully's point might be valid if the U23's actually meant anything.
    i dont see any harm in it - it is what it is. why are people knocking it

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    The only conflict of interest I can see is Mathews and Fenlon can choose to rest Bohs and Cork players if they feel they are tired or carrying knocks. Two of the three Rovers players were supposed to have been carrying injuries, Murphy has been clearly struggling since coming back for Rovers. That's the major conflict of interest in that situation.

    Tapping up will happen regardless in a league as small as our own.
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    Scully was everybody's Mr Cool two seasons back when his team were in Division 1 winning most of their games and he was on the telly commenting on teams he didn't have to play against.
    Last season the strain started to show when every game he lost he had a ready-made excuse (Bit o' Red fans saw plenty of it, with his "I refuse to accept we lost that game" in Sligo and his scandalous blaming of Kudozovic for his keeper's injury).
    Now he's on the skids and the true colours are showing. The recent verbal attack on his players in the post-match comments in Sligo was bad form - that stuff should be confined to the dressing-room. Making it for public consumption was a classic display of covering his own posterior.
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    Erm has Scully not got a very valid point in that Fenlon tried to tap up Ger Rowe a few months away, resulting in Rovers losing one of their first choice players just as the season was about to begin? If it happened once...

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    Scully is correct, conflict of interest is obvious.

    The U23 games are waste of time but is separate debate.
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    Scully is dead right on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry 'da' Wyse View Post
    But how then can Bohs be second in the league and the U23's need only one more win to reach the final of the competition.

    Time for Scully to concentrate on SRFC
    How did he turn a Derry team who had challenged for the title right to the final day for two seasons into make-weights?

    He's a money manager.
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