Bohs fan fails to get 'hooligan associates' ban lifted

[d13bohs]

Good post D13 - well-presented and persuasive.

However - I have to admit that you started to lose me when you defended someone for encroaching onto the playing surface during a Bohs-Rovers derby. We can all understand why he did it, but at the same time we can all control ourselves enough not to do it. And we all know that going onto the pitch during the most heated derby in the EL is just plain stupid.

Your judgement seemed reasonable to me up until that point.

I agree with you that it was stupid but I think most people here ccould understand that in the heat of the moment of a late winner in a cup semi final against your most hated and bitter rivals, stepping a yard or two onto the pitch to celebrate with Glen Crowe is not the worst thing a person can do in the greater scheme of things. It was relevant to the point though, as this person was banned from Dalyer for a while and as a result, anyone seen with him can now also be barred from Dalymount because of that one (in my view relatively harmless) incident, entirely at the whim of the board or those people who have the ear of board members and want to abuse their position to settle personal grudges.

[dcfcsteve]

I agree with you that it was stupid but I think most people here ccould understand that in the heat of the moment of a late winner in a cup semi final against your most hated and bitter rivals, stepping a yard or two onto the pitch to celebrate with Glen Crowe is not the worst thing a person can do in the greater scheme of things. It was relevant to the point though, as this person was banned from Dalyer for a while and as a result, anyone seen with him can now also be barred from Dalymount because of that one (in my view relatively harmless) incident, entirely at the whim of the board or those people who have the ear of board members and want to abuse their position to settle personal grudges.

That person should be banned from Dalymount forn encroaching onto the pitch. The club gets fined for it - and if they did it in England they'd be arrested and liable for a prison scentence.

The bit about anyone being seen with them, however, is primarily fear and conjecture. Let's face it - if the Board of any club want to ban a certain fan, they'll find a way of doing. They don't need to sit on their hands waiting for them to be seen with someone who once ran onto a pitch.

[d13bohs]

That person should be banned from Dalymount forn encroaching onto the pitch. The club gets fined for it - and if they did it in England they'd be arrested and liable for a prison scentence.

The bit about anyone being seen with them, however, is primarily fear and conjecture. Let's face it - if the Board of any club want to ban a certain fan, they'll find a way of doing. They don't need to sit on their hands waiting for them to be seen with someone who once ran onto a pitch.

That person was banned from Dalymount for the rest of the season which is fair enough (not banned for life though, I'm not sure if that's what you're suggesting should have happened, if so, I would totally disagree with you). I don't think all the Stoke City fans, for example, who got on the pitch, minutes before their promotion was assured, were arrested and I would be astounded if any of them faced prison.

The 'fear and conjecture' you refer to is actually well-placed, given the events which have transpired at Dalymount. People are being banned on the vague notion that they 'associate' with people who were banned. That is what this whole thread is about. The board at Dalymount ARE doing this and are often attempting to do it based on personal agendas/ vendettas or simply based on downright lies, as happened in my situation. It has happened already and it almost happened to me so it is not conjecture, it is reality unfortunately.