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    Oooh a letter to the Meath Chronicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Oooh a letter to the Meath Chronicle.
    It's what made Sarkozy collapse.

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    That would have been better posted in the Lisbon thread mypost, since that's the agenda you're trying to push. I agree with your No vote, but in all honesty the way you put yourself across does more harm than good to both the No vote and your credibility.

    Back on topic, you'd wonder how many people will have been told not to come back to work next week, after the builders fortnight.

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    Thought it had more to do with the economic/unemployment situation than the Lisbon stuff, which was mostly confined towards the end of the piece, so I put it in here.

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    You must think people are very stupid mypost.

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    For those who haven't noticed, 17k signed on last month. The Thomas Cook workers will be on next month's figure.

    Quote Originally Posted by irish times
    The unadjusted jobless rate rose by an additional 17,143 people from June to 435,735 last month, giving an annual increase of just under 83 per cent.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...breaking27.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    For those who haven't noticed, 17k signed on last month.
    Whats the point in this? Its on every single news report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    For those who haven't noticed, 17k signed on last month. The Thomas Cook workers will be on next month's figure.



    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...breaking27.htm
    Whilst individually relevant, the Thomas Cook numbers are smaller than the error rate and statistically insignificant.

    A more useful comparison is comparing our 12.7% rate with the US 9.4%. given the lack of a welfare safety net in the US unemployment should always be lower, so that's a pretty large number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge
    Whats the point in this? Its on every single news report.
    From scanning through RTE's site, there doesn't appear to be any mention of the figures released on their news programmes yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    From scanning through RTE's site, there doesn't appear to be any mention of the figures released on their news programmes yesterday.

    Scan harder.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0807/jobs.html

    The unadjusted figure rose by 17,143 from June to 435,735, giving an annual increase of just under 83%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan
    Quote Originally Posted by me
    there doesn't appear to be any mention of the figures released on their news programmes yesterday
    Refers to tv/radio broadcasts of course.

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    There were reports yesterday.

    5,000 more signed on last month, which brings the total to just 10k shy of the 450k mark.

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    The latest figures were released this week, and show the first significant increase for a while, up by 3,000+ to 427,000.

    An even bigger increase is expected next month.

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    anyone think that to get the dole you should do 10hours of community service or charity work a week? might give people somthing to do i guess..

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    I certainly think there is a trick being missed, there are a lot of highly skilled people on the dole who could be helping others with that knowledge.
    Whether that needs to be mandatory or not is open to debate. I think there will be a re-emergence of the original Anco/FAS training ideals with more people joining courses rather than being on the dole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    anyone think that to get the dole you should do 10hours of community service or charity work a week? might give people somthing to do i guess..
    I think the argument against that is, that the dole then becomes the min wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    I think the argument against that is, that the dole then becomes the min wage.
    well than you make this 'work' last for as many hours as the dole is worth if you were being pain minnimum wages. if you work for 10 hours for 200ish quid thats a lot more than minimum wage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Refers to tv/radio broadcasts of course.
    You conveniently left out the bit in your post where you said "From scanning through RTE's site", which of course isn't TV/radio broadcasts.

    Edit - stupid bumping old threads...
    Last edited by pineapple stu; 11/01/2010 at 4:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla View Post
    anyone think that to get the dole you should do 10hours of community service or charity work a week? might give people somthing to do i guess..
    I've said the same to other people, I really don't see how it could be anything other than beneficial if you got people working in the community for their dole. It gets the terminal dole scum out of bed, gives the decent unemployed people something to do, might help rebuild community spirit in areas (which I personally think is a huge problem at the moment), helps peoples self esteem by giving them something to work towards and also justifies what is a pretty decent chunk of public change (English people I know genuinely can't believe how much we are given over here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    I've said the same to other people, I really don't see how it could be anything other than beneficial if you got people working in the community for their dole. It gets the terminal dole scum out of bed, gives the decent unemployed people something to do, might help rebuild community spirit in areas (which I personally think is a huge problem at the moment), helps peoples self esteem by giving them something to work towards and also justifies what is a pretty decent chunk of public change (English people I know genuinely can't believe how much we are given over here)
    i suppose community work sounds better on a c.v than dole aswell someone agrees with me wow

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