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    That maybe true but I do not think it would make good economic sense to employ more public sector workers in social welfare to deal with a temporary problem. This is where I do think that the public sector can be more flexible to deal with issues like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    That maybe true but I do not think it would make good economic sense to employ more public sector workers in social welfare to deal with a temporary problem. This is where I do think that the public sector can be more flexible to deal with issues like this.
    If you take more staff on now if unemployment drops in years to come seems department would have no use for those staff. The system should be flexible enough that can take people on for contract period or move from other departments. There must surely be other areas who were busy in a boom but under utilised in a recession? The office that provided work visa must be quiet now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    If you take more staff on now if unemployment drops in years to come seems department would have no use for those staff. The system should be flexible enough that can take people on for contract period or move from other departments. There must surely be other areas who were busy in a boom but under utilised in a recession? The office that provided work visa must be quiet now?
    True. There should be a priority on SW at the moment in terms of staff movement. Unfortunately the higher ups in most departments would probably be reluctant to agree.
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    Talking about cutbacks etc - esp in the health service - did anyone notice in this sunday's Indo that they are spending 20 million on a few jeeps for the Irish army - which might rise in the future -

    Its a great country we live in - no beds available in hospitals but big toys for our non existent army

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Talking about cutbacks etc - esp in the health service - did anyone notice in this sunday's Indo that they are spending 20 million on a few jeeps for the Irish army - which might rise in the future -

    Its a great country we live in - no beds available in hospitals but big toys for our non existent army
    Is this where they are getting them from?

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    Blunder Lenihan on tv3's "Political Party" last week.

    When asked would a speculative figure of 400,000 unemployed be a concern to him next year, he looks at the figures in percentage terms than the specific numbers unemployed. He seemed to think that because the figure wasn't 20% like in the 80's, there was little to worry about.

    No matter how few times you say it, 277,000 on the dole is a lot of people. Next month, there will be a massacre in jobs lost. Telling them effectively that it doesn't matter to the government, is not going to go down well.

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    The country holds its breath this week awaiting the government rescue plan.

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    Unemployment up to 8.3% in December

    Irish unemployment rose to ten-year high of 8.3 per cent at the end of 2008 as the number of jobless people claiming benefits surged by a record 121,100 in the year to December.

    The Live Register of jobseekers' benefit and allowance claimants grew by 16,300 people last month, according to seasonally adjusted figures released by the Central Statistics Office (CSO) this morning.

    This is the secondly highest monthly total on record, just behind the 16,700 recorded in November. On an unadjusted basis the December rise was a record 22,777.

    During 2008 the number of claimants soared by a record 71 per cent to bring the total number of claimants to 293,500. This is the highest level of claimants since December 1993, according to the CSO.
    I suppose another rise is expected for January given unable to claim when the social welfare office closed over Christmas.
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    Unemployment figures now standing at their highest since pre-Celtic Tiger days, even if some of the figures this month may be a knock-on effect of the pork crisis, before it was sorted out.

    Our TD's have shown their commitment to dealing with the national emergency, by not re-sitting for another 18 days. The political will isn't there to tackle urgent issues facing the state. This inertia is an example why agreements/solutions take years rather than months to finalise.
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    Was down at the local welfare office today, which covers 3 suburbs. The dole queue there is now at least 75 minutes long. What will it be like when the figure reaches beyond 10%?

    The Commons sat today in London. At least they're appearing to look for solutions. Ours don't sit for another 2 weeks, and instead of trying to get the economy back on track, are cynically using the current situation imo as a propaganda tool in order to force-feed us the EU Constitution, warning of economic armageddon if we don't swallow it later this year, in order to save their own jobs, rather than create new ones.

    It'll be armageddon regardless of what the outcome is, and those numbers will keep rising.

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    A Little aside but Why Why Why were Anglo-Irish Allowed to survive and Why were the Head of Management in the Major Banks sacked with no golden handshake!! - The Reason - Cowen is a Gutless Piece of Crap.

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    Was talking with someone this morning and we both agreed that if Sean Fitzpatrick had done what he did in the US, he'd be doing the "perp walk" in regular metal handcuffs (as opposed to the golden variety).

    But then again, should the endemic institutional corruptness surprise us, after all we've just sat through a decade of tribunals where the only sanctions were a few contempt of courts charges.

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    Thumbs down

    Prosecution let alone jail time does not happen for white collar crimes in this country. Sure I think in the "banana case" insider trading was pretty much proven but only given a fine. (maybe someone more familiar with that can fill in the blanks)
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    That Dole queue in Galway on the Six One News was very much a sign of the times.. desperately sad.

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    I've been 'happily sick' and unable to work for the last year and I've been surviving on illness benefit. Thats all well and good but why, oh why, oh why am I being head-hunted for a new job when everyone else is losing their jobs?!!! I didn't even think I was any good at my job. This whole world is twisty, turny, upside down.
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    It makes sense. There are many locations with Ulster Bank and First Active in close proximity with little to gain from it. First Active were mainly mortgage specialists and that market has dried up.

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    It's the amount of jobs lost that's the problem. They don't all work for FA. You can't close a place and at the same time, ask for voluntary redundancies. Once those jobs are gone, they're gone.

    That register could easily hit 25k next month, if keeping with previous monthly totals, plus the January cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Student View Post
    It makes sense. There are many locations with Ulster Bank and First Active in close proximity with little to gain from it. First Active were mainly mortgage specialists and that market has dried up.
    Harsh on the people who lose their jobs but that decision is likely to safeguard the jobs of the other staff in Ulster Bank.
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