not going to read through all 6 pages, but, fair play to Derry and best of luck. The worst that can happen is that they will be told NO ! They should also ask both national lotteries for fundings also given the situation they are in. I would hope that if GUFC were in the same position that they would do the exact same.
Originally Posted by Bucky-O'Hare
They will get grants from both NI gov and the FAI as they seem to have ensured they meet the requiremnts laid out, and in this case it's pretty automatic to get funds, the only question being HOW MUCH.
As they have applied for the sun moon and stars they just might get the sun!! best of look to them
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
Fair play to Derry. Can't see what the problem is; the arguments against them applying for all possible available funding smell very sour and tabloidy.
I'm delighted Derry are in the FAI; apart from what they bring to the league, it serves to highlight the ridiculousness of the existence of two associations in this country. More power to anything that heaps farce upon that situation.
I hope they get stg£20million and any club who objects get fined.
Because if Gabriel doesn't rollerblade to the Chelsea Piers then the terrorists have truly won.
I think it is absolutely unbelievable that there are Irish football fans complaining about one club getting a bit of money to improve facilities. If it were any other club getting any amount of money from anywhere, I'd be behind them 100%. Money to improve footballing infrastructure in this country should be welcomed by all.
On another point, the majority of the people of Derry are or consider themselves (if they don't have a passport) Irish Citizens. Why shouldn't our Government help us out? It sickens me to see a crowd from Drogheda etc coming on here preaching at us about the UK.
DCFC
A crowd from drogheda? Ive only seen one drogheda supporter say anytthing in this thread. You'd want to cop yourself on, the fact is that you are in the UK. And I hope you get as much as you can going that route. Seriously, I really hope you get the funding for what you want to get done.
But the fact of the matter is (and I repeat myself), theres a limited pool of money going towards sports stadiums each year in this country (the 26 county country!) and none of that should be going towards sports stadiums in a different country who dont pay any taxes here. Why should a club who pay their taxes to the queen get money over a club in the republic of ireland? They shouldnt even be eligible to apply, never mind succeed in getting the money
DAN CONNOR HATES CITY, HE HATES LANGERS
Derry City are members of the FAI, just like Drogheda, City or anyone else.
They have as much right to money off the FAI as anyone else, they pay their membership fees, play in competitions, represent us in Europe etc etc.
Where the FAI get the money from is irrelevant.
Its 100% relevant
DAN CONNOR HATES CITY, HE HATES LANGERS
How? What about money the FAI get from areas other than the FAI? Can they give that to Derry?
Derry City deserve moeny from the FAI just as much as any other club. They're membership is just as valid as everyone elses
They can do what they want to do with other money they have - but theyll have to explain that to the other clubs as im sure questions would be asked.
If its government money, theyre not eligible - end of story. Look at the guidelines for the irish governments sports capital programme and you will see that
DAN CONNOR HATES CITY, HE HATES LANGERS
If the government is giving a grant to the FAi, its the FAI that have to be eligible...which they clearly are. Unless the government have earmarked the grant for a specific project, the money is the FAI's to decide who deserves it
Also your point is clearly untrue as 2 Irish league clubs ave been given grants previously. So they clearly are eligible. Whether they shoudl get it or not is another matter
A lot of complaining being done here about a northern based football club getting money to improve recreational facilitities in one of the most deprived areas of both the UK and the Republic of Ireland. A lot of statements saying that we aren't entitled to it. yet I dont see any gurning being done about the road improvements on the derry-dublin road that are going to be funded by the IRISH GOVERNMENT. and they will cost a whole hell of a lot more than 5 million, be it GBP or Euro. Nor do I hear any complaining being done by anyone regarding money being provided to the whole list of northern bodies as listed by dcfcsteve earlier in this thread, including the Orange Order.
I fail to see why everyone is complaining over this. reading to some of the arguments on here, it seems some posters on this board think derry shouldnt get any funding at all.
EG doesnt want us to get funding from stormont because we dont play in their league. some southern posters dont want us to get funding from the irish government because we're not based in the republic of ireland, although a five minute drive from the brandywell will have you across it. the border seems to be a tangible thing for many people who live in counties (north and south) that arent adjacent to this imaginary line on a map, but for those of us who do live beside it and have to deal with it on a day and daily basis, it is merely an anachronism that has unfortunately resulted in the entire north west region (and i include inishowen in this) being neglected by dublin, london and belfast. if you dont like an organisation applying for funding from both jurisdictions, then contact your local TD/MLA/MP, and get all cross border funding eliminated. f*****g west brits.
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A crowd from Drogheda etc as I said in my original post. You'd want to get those specs checked out. As for us not contributing the the RoI economy, you should know that that is total bull****. The money Derry and it's supporters spend in the South with our sizeable travelling support contributes to RoI taxes.
And its not a case of us getting money over a club in the South. We just bloody applied. Maybe if other clubs got their finger out and asked the Govt or the FAI they'd get a bit of dough too.
DCFC
But roads, Police Schools, 'cultural organisations' etc are ok to receieve funding...?Whatever payment they get from FAI will obviously be given by the government indirectly.
This is a very serious issue imo. Theres no way a club from the UK should receive funding towards sports stadium from the Irish governement (whether it be directly or indirectly) over clubs who pay their taxes to the Irish government.
Fortunately the government in Dublin doesn't mimic your partitionist leanings..
What's next to feel Cosmo's partitionist wrath - the thousand of Donegal kids who've been educated in Derry schools for free over the decades since partition ? No, wait - it's only when benefits leave the south that his sensitivities get challenged.....
Last edited by dcfcsteve; 27/04/2008 at 9:48 PM.
Cosmo - look on any money we get as a delayed fine for the physical and enotional damage caused by one of your players taking a p!ss at the side of the Brandywell pitch in full view of men, women and children...
Now run along...
I wondered about that, sounds like a gross exaggeration. Derry fans, wild guess, 25k - 30k per season, you fill up before the you hit the Free State, bring your own beer and sandwiches, make a racket then feck off home, sometimes with the points.
Now the Republic is donating £320m for a nice new A5 for you, so you can cruise all the way from from Derry to Aughnacloy. And how many signs will you drive by thanking the people of the Republic for their generosity?
It would be nice if you subvention junkies would say thanks now and again
The fact that half of the city-side of Derry queues up at the petrol stations in Muff and Bridgend every single week of the year (more frequently for taxi drivers) to fill their cars shows that you haven't got the first clue of what you're talking about.....
Just what this debate needs - another ill-informed Free Stater with partitionist leanings.....
You really don't have a clue, do you? Derry fills up in Donegal. Millions upon millions must go to the Republics coffers from the daily lines of cars waiting to fill up in Donegal.I wondered about that, sounds like a gross exaggeration. Derry fans, wild guess, 25k - 30k per season, you fill up before the you hit the Free State, bring your own beer and sandwiches, make a racket then feck off home, sometimes with the points.
Now the Republic is donating £320m for a nice new A5 for you, so you can cruise all the way from from Derry to Aughnacloy. And how many signs will you drive by thanking the people of the Republic for their generosity?
It would be nice if you subvention junkies would say thanks now and again
DCFC
Good luck to Derry and their Grant Application. They should stick the arm in as much as possible. If the govt wants to furnish the City of Lisburn with a national stadium costing £90million , then £5 million for a revamped Brandywell is entirely proprtionate.
The government has promised IL clubs further funding once the IFA gets its house in order - Derry shouldnt suffer too because they happen to play in a more professionally run league.
Heh. It isn't in the 'city' of Lisburn, but a field three miles away with no facilities to drive in or out easily, catch a train, or eat and drink. It would cost well over £240 million, not £90 million. And most rumour coming out of Stormont, Windsor and DUP HQ suggests it's about to be abandoned , not before time.
As Green forever says above, if DC have completed the application as required then they should get some money from Stormont. If it was £5 million, what exactly would that go on- it seems modest for wider urban development outside the stands.
Just what this debate needs - another ill-informed Free Stater with partitionist leanings.....[/QUOTE]
Must be great to be so perfect....me I love being a Free Stater and happy that my club gets it's grants/stadium from a Government body which I've partly funded via my tax contributions over the years.... still if my Govt. wishes to give Derry City a dig out, then whilst i don't agree with it, so be it, guess that's the price we pay to live in a democracy.
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