Poor Standard of Ref's in the Eircom League.

**thischarmingman** · 28/04/2008, 2:36 PM

Originally Posted by Greenforever

Have any of you ever reffed a game?

Done a refereeing course?

Been assessed as a ref or even know what it entails?

Nope. I've never played professional football either but that doesn't stop me criticising players.

**Sheridan** · 28/04/2008, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by Greenforever

However one huge improvement could be if the ref was wired for sound like in Rugby and explained all descisions.

"Well, basically, what's happened here is that I wasn't keeping up with the play and frankly don't have a clue what went on, but the number 4 called me a **** at the Carlisle Grounds in 2003 and I don't have as far to run if it's taken from here, so it's a yellow card and a free-kick to the attacking team. Okay?"

**Réiteoir** · 28/04/2008, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by football fan

As for the AR sprinting off the pitch at full time, he did the same at half time as well and waited at the tunnel for Alan and the other AR. I found this rather strange myself!

As far as I know, its a new uefa instruction that the lino nearest the tunnel go to the tunnel area at full time and half time in case there is any hassle. Reitoir have you heard anything about this??[/quote]

Haven't had any directives from the English FA regarding this (as it's usually the Fourth Official who monitors the tunnel area) - but will keep an eye out for anything

**rambler14** · 28/04/2008, 4:21 PM

Poll on the standard of referees is available on the MNS website. www.rte.ie/mns

**Réiteoir** · 28/04/2008, 5:34 PM

I can see only one outcome of this - and it may not be justified - or it may be - I'll let the rest of yer decide that one

**Sheridan** · 28/04/2008, 5:40 PM

It always amuses me when refs get uppity and threaten to withdraw their labour (unless they're being physically abused.) It happened in Spain about ten years ago - their ego-less replacements from the Second Division performed so well the strike was over before it had begun.

**Réiteoir** · 28/04/2008, 10:45 PM

tbh Sheridan - I'd gladly kill to be allowed to even run the line on an eircom League game.

Sadly I won't get the chance due to me being stuck in the English system

**osarusan** · 28/04/2008, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Réiteoir

tbh Sheridan - I'd gladly kill Alan Kelly to be allowed to even run the line on an eircom League game.

That's the spirit.

**sligofan4ever** · 29/04/2008, 6:17 PM

Don't know how many have you have been to the Showgrounds but the refs we get are very poor always give decisions the other way

no matter what if were onside he says were offside if the other team are a mile off its onside in there eyes its madness

**Dodge** · 29/04/2008, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by sligofan4ever

Don't know how many have you have been to the Showgrounds but the refs we get are very poor always give decisions the other way

no matter what if were onside he says were offside if the other team are a mile off its onside in there eyes its madness

Its also a lie. None of them are biased. They're just poor.

**deecay** · 29/04/2008, 6:27 PM

I hate so many people,ref's are up there but they make mistakes every game.There is NOTHING that can be done,lets just enjoy abuseing them

**ramsfan** · 30/04/2008, 4:03 PM

it makes it worth the admission alone just to be allowed give them some heartache when they make a crap call

**eamo1** · 30/04/2008, 4:52 PM

I was told to "relax and take it easy" by one woman at the match in terryland last Friday night.She just doesnt understand though,she never will.

**ramsfan** · 30/04/2008, 9:20 PM

i had the total opposition experience a players mother nearly climbing the wall to call the linesman a fist of obscenities when her son was hacked down,proper hardcore none of this comin to games just to be seen and moaning about it the whole way through

**rambler14** · 30/04/2008, 9:25 PM

Originally Posted by eamo1

I was told to "relax and take it easy" by one woman at the match in terryland last Friday night.She just doesnt understand though,she never will.

I know the feeling. I'm constantly being told to "relax and take it easy" but they just don't understand.

**thischarmingman** · 30/04/2008, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by eamo1

I was told to "relax and take it easy" by one woman at the match in terryland last Friday night.She just doesnt understand though,she never will.

**Réiteoir** · 01/05/2008, 9:28 AM

Guys - just want to slightly divert from the subject - but the FAI are crying out for any extra referees they can get to oversee games at Amateur and Schoolboys Level - we have a massive disparity between the number of teams and the number of registered and active referees (the UEFA average is something like 1 referee for every 8 teams - here it's 1 referee for every 18 teams).

Dates and venues of remaining seminars for this year:

7th May - 9:30am - ALSAA, Dublin Airport
10th May - 9:30am - St Mary's Diocesan School, Drogheda
17th May - 9:30am - ALSAA, Dublin Airport
24th May - 9:30am - ALSAA, Dublin Airport
28th May - 6:30pm - ALSAA, Dublin Airport

23rd May - 6:30pm - Mounthawk Park, Tralee

17th May - 9:30am - Daingeann, Galway

For more details or to register an interest - please email referees@fai.ie

**Angus** · 01/05/2008, 11:48 AM

Not sure I can count everything but I suspect I am in a minority.

I actually think the standard is not bad. Yes big teams get more decisions on balance but it was ever thus and is the same all aorund the world.

By and large they do a decent job and while I have cursed like all of us I could never say a ref ruined a game or most importantly failed to deal with thuggishness

**hedderman** · 01/05/2008, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Its also a lie. None of them are biased. They're just poor.

Would agree completely with that statement. There always seems to be a perception in Derry of Dublin bias when I think it's just poor refereeing at times