Limerick: European Capital of Murder 2008

[jebus]

But ill agree on Jebus's solution. I just wouldnt stop at the small few fueding families .

Finally a fellow wannabe mass murderer, I say we need to wipe out at least 66% of the world's population, how about you?

No one ever takes me seriously with this, but I genuinely think we could end up having to look at ways to cut back the world's population, the way we have multiplied as a species just isn't sustainable, I mean I heard David Attenbrough recently say that the world's population has tripled since he began shooting documentaries, that's just asking for trouble. Restrictions on how many children a family can have, and introducing licences for having children in the first place is a start, after that we may have to look at more radical solutions, although I do expect global war to rear it's head at some stage in the next 20-30 years

[anto1208]

Finally a fellow wannabe mass murderer, I say we need to wipe out at least 66% of the world's population, how about you?

No one ever takes me seriously with this, but I genuinely think we could end up having to look at ways to cut back the world's population, the way we have multiplied as a species just isn't sustainable, I mean I heard David Attenbrough recently say that the world's population has tripled since he began shooting documentaries, that's just asking for trouble. Restrictions on how many children a family can have, and introducing licences for having children in the first place is a start, after that we may have to look at more radical solutions, although I do expect global war to rear it's head at some stage in the next 20-30 years

60% is quite low , Think on the planet earth blue ray David Attenbrough says something along the lines of the population has gone from 1 bill to 5 or 6 billion in the last 100 years. The planet can support it pretty easily but

There is a book the futurists i think its called that is about this issue have nt read it yet but its goes on about population culs , they mention that every time there is a crisis a earthquake flood etc we pump the country full of money and aid then they reproduce with normally quite large families making the situation worse. Then wiping out large amounts of people think you might enjoy it.

Seriously though i think the vast majority of people are ok and i think if there was a swoop one night and we woke up and every dirtball was gone id say there wouldnt be too many people asking questions. Licence's to have kids is a priority in my book.

[GavinZac]

You might like Jared Diamond's Collapse even if it is a little softhanded in its solutions, jebus

[jebus]

You might like Jared Diamond's Collapse even if it is a little softhanded in its solutions, jebus

As soon as I'm finished with my Mein Kempf re-re-re-re-read I'll give it a look, seriously thinking of going into politics though,
A Vote For Jebus Is a Vote For Genocide posters would catch the eye I think, and if I could manage to persuade Rosanna Davidson to come to the party manifesto launch I'm sure I could capture the masse's minds as well

[GavinZac]

"If elected, I will reduce taxes!*"

*Less people means less welfare, means less gov expenditure

[DaveyCakes]

Where do I sign up?

[pete]

I mean I heard David Attenbrough recently say that the world's population has tripled since he began shooting documentaries, that's just asking for trouble.

I agree. Add ban on documentaries to the Manifesto in lieu of mass sterilisation.

[GavinZac]

Woah, woah, woah. Nobody said anything about threatening David Attenbrough. That man practically raised me.

[jebus]

I agree. Add ban on documentaries to the Manifesto in lieu of mass sterilisation.

Are you crazy??! I was thinking of tearing down the old religious orders and creating a new religion with David as it's figurehead!

[Lim till i die]

I did get robbed by a herion addict so thats hardly nonsense

So what??

How many times in Rathbane did we have dirtballs throwing rocks over the wall.

Maybe a dozen in fifteen or so years??

Last week i had my own game cancelled because dirt balls where throwing rocks at the players.

So what??

You cant have anything in the city that isnt a filthball magnet the kick the ball through the hole thing on thomas street on friday for the club was swarming with little dirt balls.

Now i find it hard to believe you have lived in Limerick for what 30+ years and have never been the victim of crime? Or have failed to notice the scoabs around the city.

You're talking out your ar$e with your points anto.

I've lived all of my 22 years in the middle of one of the "Most dangerous estates in Ireland" (Trademark: Paul Williams, Sunday World) so I'd wager I'm far closer to the ground than you and judging by your posts have a far far better idea of how things work.

Sure an awful lot of my childhood friends are to quote some gangsta rap for you "locked down, cracked out, or in the dirt" but does it effect my ability to live my daily life?? Of course not! Because I'm not a whinge bag constantly looking for excuses to be in fear or things to give out about.

If you leave the actual real hard criminals alone they are not going to bother you. To suggest people are going around randomly attacking other people for no reason is ludicrous.

I wasn't saying that if you visit Limerick you will get definetly get robbed/shot/stabbed. My point was to BGR that even if you have nothing to do with these guys and that they dont shoot you the knock on effect they have on the community prob will at some stage touch you.

Absolute nonsense.

It effects you if you allow it to effect you. Your visions of random, rampant crime are patently false.

Ie some heroin addict that needs money to pay his bill with these gangs goes out and robs a house.

More sensationalist rubbish. How, pray tell, is this in any way unique to Limerick.

When people say its no worse than dublin etc i dont really care what happens in dublin i dont live there i dont think its acceptable for any of these scumbags to be doing this just because its going on in dublin.

Of course its not acceptable.

Really though, what is your point??

People, pay little heed to anto Limerick is not that bad. Take it from someone who knows. I've had a lot of stuff happen that might shock someone not from an area like mine but I can assure you its a rare occurence.

What you have in Limerick is a lot of poverty coupled with sprawling massive housing estates which were far too big on day one and the drug related crime which inevitably results. What you don't have in Limerick is huge gangs of murderers and thieves prowling every street corner.

But ill agree on Jebus's solution. I just wouldnt stop at the small few fueding families

"Feuding Families"

Jesus Wept.

[Lim till i die]

Do the local communities support these people?

Why it's like they're the 3rd West Cork Brigade and the Gardai are the Black and Tans.

Is membership of a gang a criminal offense in Ireland similar to membership of the Provos? If we used such a law could intern the gangs which I see as completely different to the north.

How do you go about proving gang membership pete??

They don't carry cards you know.

[GavinZac]

What you have in Limerick is a lot of poverty caused by sprawling massive housing estates

I must say that this point confuses me.

[sadloserkid]

I did get robbed by a herion addict so thats hardly nonsense

You said I would get robbed. This is the part I was dismissing as nonsense. You may not have meant to sound as sensationalist but you did.

You cant have anything in the city that isnt a filthball magnet the kick the ball through the hole thing on thomas street on friday for the club was swarming with little dirt balls.

It is not a crime to look like a dirtball. Nor should it be. There was no trouble at the club event and if anybody has a problem with how people look it says more about their own middle class ass clenching than anything else.

Now i find it hard to believe you have lived in Limerick for what 30+ years and have never been the victim of crime? Or have failed to notice the scoabs around the city.

I'm 27. And I have never been the victim of a crime. Two guys demanded my wallet once. I refused, punched one and ran off like a great big sissy. Not the end of the world. Again scobes probably have a right to exist if their only crime is looking scobish.

Ive had 1 mate beaten to death with a car jack
1 aquantence shot dead for doing his job
my house broken into once parents 4 times
ive been held up working in an offy once and got stuff robbed & took a few digs on countless times.
ive been attacked once in the street after aclub and once inside a club.
to name but a hand full

All very tragic. But if the truth is somewhere between my own blessed existence and your seemingly luckless one (as far as crime goes) then it's still not a widespread problem.

But ill agree on Jebus's solution. I just wouldnt stop at the small few fueding families .

Indeed. 80% of the world's population if I had my way.

[Lim till i die]

I must say that this point confuses me.

Limerick city center was always full of slums. These were cleared and moved out to new housing estates on the edge of the city. (As probably happened in most citys now that I think of it.) But the housing estates in Limerick are absolutely huge when you consider the size of the town and they have shag all amenities.

There has always been a long history of poverty in Limerick due to its rather crummy nature as a site for a city.

The level of local authority housing in Limerick city compared to other cities is shocking aswell.

I take your point though. The housing estates of course don't in themselves cause poverty.

[Lim till i die]

if anybody has a problem with how people look it says more about their own middle class ass clenching than anything else.

I forgot about your proud stance as the self proclaimed only comfortable middle class person in the world.

I'm 27. And I have never been the victim of a crime. Two guys demanded my wallet once. I refused, punched one and ran off like a great big sissy.

Outstanding. Why wasn't I informed of this before??

[sadloserkid]

Outstanding. Why wasn't I informed of this before??

It's going back a while now. Maybe the summer of 2002? Long before Mr. LTID appeared on my social radar.

[jebus]

I must say that this point confuses me.

Limerick is built on large housing estates with little or no facilities, be it for employment or leisure. When the factories started closing late 70s/early 80s a lot of people were left with nothing to do and nowhere to go, hence quite a few turned to crime and drugs. It's not an exclusive Limerick problem I agree, but when you combine large housing estates, a rising rate of unemployment, a national press trying to divert attention away from the much more dangerous city of Dublin, and a tabloid loving public, you are going to end up with a large group of people who think the world is out to get them and are being offered drugs on a daily basis. Again it's not an exclusive Limerick problem, but there is a tendancy in Ireland to treat Limerick in the same manner as West Coast Americans do Compton. I think that's what that point was about, if not then my point is still on the table.

Anyway having lived in Limerick for the majority of my life, Cork for a total of about 3 years, and Dublin for a total of about one year here's what I think all three cities major negatives are in relation to anti-social behaviour and how to deal with them.

Limerick: Far too many mouthy kids who think they are rock hard; solution tell them to go **** themselves, they shut up pretty quickly, or else you could just avoid them

Cork: Far too many drunken loudmouths out on weekend nights looking for fights; solution avoid them

Dublin: Far too many junkies wandering the streets; solution once again avoid them

Lesson we've learnt today kids, avoiding people who are obviously on the wrong side of the tracks/young/drunk will greatly lessen your chances of being mugged, insulted, beaten up, or infected with AIDS. Thats all for today

[Lim till i die]

It's going back a while now. Maybe the summer of 2002? Long before Mr. LTID appeared on my social radar.

Summer of 02??

It's just possible I was involved

Apologies.

[pete]

Limerick city center was always full of slums.

Like Angela Ashes? I am sure everyone has been unlucky enough to see that film.

[sadloserkid]

Summer of 02??

It's just possible I was involved

Apologies.

It may have been you I hit! Perhaps I should apologise! :P

On an aside I think the very fact that a skinny, hippy-looking clown like my good self can exist unmolested in Limerick is proof enough that it's not some circle of hell come to the real world...