MNS 14 April discussion

**sligoman** · 14/04/2008, 8:36 PM

Originally Posted by deecay

Difficult to watch at times,Con Murphy is a joke and the constant use of the word ''soccer'' hugely fustrates me

But yet you still watch it every week

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**A face** · 14/04/2008, 8:38 PM

Originally Posted by deecay

Difficult to watch at times,Con Murphy is a joke and the constant use of the word ''soccer'' hugely fustrates me

We all know your opinion on it, do you have to keep telling us. The nauseum is driving me insane at this stage, i feel like prizing off my kneecaps to make it stop. You're worse than Roddy.

**superfrank** · 14/04/2008, 8:40 PM

Well everyone's complaining about Roddy, surely he's allowed to complain about MNS too.

Foot.ie would be boring if we all disagreed about the same thing.

**deecay** · 14/04/2008, 8:53 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

But yet you still watch it every week

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Sorry for being a LOI fan

Originally Posted by A face

We all know your opinion on it, do you have to keep telling us. The nauseum is driving me insane at this stage, i feel like prizing off my kneecaps to make it stop. You're worse than Roddy.

Well Im going to keep leting ye know my feelings on the matter until Murphy is gone

**A face** · 14/04/2008, 8:53 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

Well everyone's complaining about Roddy, surely he's allowed to complain about MNS too.

Foot.ie would be boring if we all disagreed about the same thing.

Just this question, dont get side tracked, its a yes, no type affair.

Are you seriously saying its OK for him to run down the league the way he did?

**A face** · 14/04/2008, 8:54 PM

Originally Posted by deecay

Sorry for being a LOI fan

Well Im going to keep leting ye know my feelings on the matter until Murphy is gone

Email him and ask him to go, it might make you feel better about it and you might leave us along for a bit too

**superfrank** · 14/04/2008, 8:54 PM

Originally Posted by A face

Just this question, dont get side tracked, its a yes, no type affair.

Are you seriously saying its OK for him to run down the league the way he did?

I'm not talking about Roddy.

**deecay** · 14/04/2008, 8:55 PM

Originally Posted by A face

Are you seriously saying its OK for him to run down the league the way he did?

Wait a sec,are you saying im running down the league?Some joke of a presenter talks bull and I complain about me and im running down the league,the cheek of ya

A Face,im finished replying to you,you are off your head

**bray boy** · 14/04/2008, 8:58 PM

dont know his name but the main presenter is possibly the .....em.......ive actually no words i mean what the hell is that lad doing its a bit of an embarrasment

AND WE WERE ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**A face** · 14/04/2008, 8:59 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

I'm not talking about Roddy.

Alright, got my wires crossed. deecay, sorry about that fella, you can go back to you're whinge-fest now ..... well, is there any chance you'd reconsider first. Give us a break for a small bit even, seriously .... consider it anyway would ya?

**deecay** · 14/04/2008, 9:00 PM

Originally Posted by the seagull

dont know his name but the main presenter is possibly the .....em.......ive actually no words i mean what the hell is that lad doing its a bit of an embarrasment

He not great alright

EDIT:Il lay off him,I hear he's a nice man

**A face** · 14/04/2008, 9:01 PM

Originally Posted by deecay

A Face,im finished replying to you,you are off your head

Damn it all to hell, i didn't see this post. So close yet soo soooo far

**sonofstan** · 14/04/2008, 9:07 PM

Originally Posted by Marco

. I just can't understand how a muppet like him is allowed to comment on the game on a show like MNS when its there to promote Irish Football. Think I will do something about this

Is it there to 'promote' or to 'report'?

If I weren't already a regular at EL matches, i'd be more impressed by a programme that reported honestly on the game here without inflating the quality or appeal beyond what i can see with my own eyes. Part of the reason i almost never watch the Premiership anymore is that breathless 'best league in the world' stuff you get from commentators and analysts - even the supposedly great RTE panel; it's not the best league in the world and outside the top 4, you don't even get particularly good football. I'd rather not have similar guff about our league thanks.

The sensitivity of the El fan at the standard of our competition been questioned is, i think at bottom, due to the fact that most of us know that what Roddy said is true; there aren't any players in this league good enought to play at international level (and given the constraints facing national team managers, that's not a particularly high standard). Sure there's a few that wouldn't disgrace themselves in a friendly, but there isn't one who would offer the team something beyond what a dozen lower league journey men based in England could give it. Probably the only player in the league who could really shine in that context isn't qualified to play for the republic (McCourt).

Roddy may be vainglorious, and his managerial abilities may not match his own opinion of them, but he's not, in this case, bullsh!tting; he's saying what he sees and i think most of us secretly agree, which is why we protest overmuch; if it really were a ridiculous statement, then we'd be taking the p!ss, not fuming.

Slightly tangently, I read something today that set out the wage bills of all the SPL sides for last season; quite a few were lower than similar figures for one or two EL teams. Wages here are inflated by the relatively closed pool of talent; only players here already are on offer, bar one or two returnees every year, which means the slightly better can command wages at a differential well in excess of what the small increment in ability would suggest; until there's real competition from players to get into this league that will continue to be the case - teams will bankrupt themselves to get the best players who aren't good enough for Div. 2 (or even the conference) - and because we're paying them so much, well they must be good, eh?

The qualities this league has to sell to the uncommitted are the passion, inventiveness and humour of the fans, the joy of localism, the fun of away trips and the flash of the very occasional sublime moment in the largely mediocre to ridiculous norm. What has also been notable and refreshing in the first few weeks of MNS has been the honesty, intelligence and humour of players and managers; really refreshing in comparison to the doltishness of the average prem post- match 'exchange' of cliches; I don't want premiership lite, and i don't want paranoid hype - i want what i get from talking about the game at or after the game, or here or on club forums.

**A face** · 14/04/2008, 9:11 PM

Are you saying the Roddy was honest in what he said, and in the way he said it?

I disagree, i definitely think that Joe Gamble would add to the Irish and have him in there over Lee Carsley any day of the week.

**passinginterest** · 14/04/2008, 9:25 PM

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with him in the players not being full international standard. It's saying stuff like the league hasn't improved in the last 10 years that's unnecessary.

Criticism has it's place on MNS just like it should, Roddy just does it for the sake of being controversial. We all know the league is not the most technically wonderful, it's certainly improved though, and the success of players like Fahey and McCourt is proof of this.

**kdjaC** · 14/04/2008, 9:34 PM

Finding it odd every week how key moments are missed, Pats vs harps theres a lob from Quigley that produced a wonder save/lucky save from their keeper. And shortly before a Quigley howler from 8 yards out.

Should be more football on it specially when good bits are left out yet for Drogs they show a sub coming on, thought only Eurosport did that in their highlights.

kdjac

**mrtndvn** · 14/04/2008, 9:35 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Disappointed with the highlights of Derry/Rovers match, we had more chances than that. Very selective highlights.

I didnt see it yet myself, but I can confirm you didnt have more chances than what it showed.

I'm actually surprised they found Sligo chances

**pineapple stu** · 14/04/2008, 9:40 PM

Originally Posted by A face

I disagree, i definitely think that Joe Gamble would add to the Irish and have him in there over Lee Carsley any day of the week.

Can we not start this rubbish again? Let's have a player signed from the Conference replace a player in a team pushing for Europe again. Yeah, makes sense.

Missed it tonight; thankfully I have the online to see if those two penalties in Belfield were as bad as everyone said. And I can watch Alan Mahon actually score a goal!