QuoteHe had an injury throughout the World Cup so he was hardly at his best. Mick McCarthy did an excellent job in keeping this quiet.Originally Posted by OwlsFan
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someone here once made the point that he is a good player for which there is no position for .. he would be useful to bring on for free kicks and penalties (once its not a penalty in a World Cup second round game) and then take him off again.
He had an injury throughout the World Cup so he was hardly at his best. Mick McCarthy did an excellent job in keeping this quiet.
Surely a better job would have been not to play him.
In Trap we trust
Could have played Kenny and shoved Stan out to LB.
That's evidence + hindsight.
Kilbane played there for some of the spain game and was fine. Stan was way to slow at that stage of his career and would have been exposed badly on the wing.
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.....and an even Better Job would be to NEVER play him again.....as a defender he frighteningly inept!
I think most on here would agree that Harte is not a very good defender. When debating about his position in the team though you have to take into consideration what the alternatives are before he is discarded. With Wales and Slovakia in mind the other options are O'Shea and Kelly. I think that Harte is a better option than either of these two on the basis that I think defensively they are all pretty weak so the question then is what other attributes they might have. There is no doubt that Harte contributes more in an attacking sense both from open play and set pieces than either O'Shea or Kelly so with this in mind and considering that all three are weak defensively the best option to me appears to be Harte. I know Kelly was good against the Czech Republic but any other time I've seen him he's been pretty average.
This is obviously a joke. Harte is another disaster and everyone knows he doesn't get first team football in Spain. I'd have him on the team before O Shea but thats not saying much. As for his placed ball qualities: his deliveries against San Marino were shocking.
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
we arent taking into account switching finnan to left back. he would be my choice with kelly on the right and o'shea in centre mid. harte should be in the squad as he is playing first team football in la liga, even though its for a crap side but he should be nowhere near the starting 11.
irish 11 everyone fit
-------------------Given--------------
Kelly------Dunne(capt)----McShane-----Finnan
Reid-------Carsley-------OShea------Duff
-------------Keane--------Doyle--------
"People say football is a matter of life or death. I believe its far more important than that."
Stan at full back in 2002 ha ha the man was a fossil
Oh and Finnan is horrendous at left back, anything he does bring to the table is negated on that side of the field, even Carr is 5x better on the left
Last edited by danonion; 20/03/2007 at 4:13 PM.
"No regrets, none at all. My only regret is that we went out on penalties. That's my only regret. But no, no regrets." -Mick McCarthy
and by reid i mean steven not that disaster andy.
also carr is a terrible full back. hed probably just get injured. he is part of possibly the most comical defence in the premiership.
"People say football is a matter of life or death. I believe its far more important than that."
reid is injured, O'shea has proven to be inept in every sense in midfield, he gives the ball away to often leading to needless offensive pressure from the opposition...McGeafdy has to start he has been playing class of late, the only irish player who can actually beat players also..
?????? Ciaran.....are really Mrs.Harte
or is the medication wearing off
My prediction for Saturday.
(1) John O'Shea will start at left back.
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Look fella.
Stop taking the ****.
FFS
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
Harte's merits and vices are wll noted but if you've a pacey astute centre centre half pairing (Like leeds during their good run a few years ago) there's enough there to play to his strengths..
When you consider his poor runs, you have to look at who's playing beside him. As good as Breen and Stan were in Japan Korea, they weren't gonna be able to carry him. And playing beside Ferdinand, Woodgate, Radebe is a world of difference from Roque Junior, Didier Domi, Matteo.
To get the best from Harte you have to carry him to an extent. But that'll be difficult until we get someone to cement his place beside Dunne
I may be wrong but i think our win percentage with Harte in the team is very high. Having said that i think his best days are behind him. Has he actually got back into the Levante team.I know he was dropped last month after a 4-2 defeat despite assisting both goals
Ian Harte's record is good ... if he is right, you;ll look a right ass, but having said that you are probably right
"No regrets, none at all. My only regret is that we went out on penalties. That's my only regret. But no, no regrets." -Mick McCarthy
SAVE ME JEBUS !!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN SOMEONE CLOSE THIS THREAD. JURASSIC PARK WAS A GOOD MOVIE BUT THIS IS OLD GROUND WELL BEFORE THE TIME OF DINOSAURS.
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He should be left back in Spain
No seriously if he is playing well he is an option.
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