Ian Harte

**peadar1987** · 10/02/2013, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Yard of Pace

Was it not Arsenal, no? I remember there was a big hullabaloo about it at the time, whoever it was.

Arsenal were the first to name an entire 18 man squad with no British or Irish players in it, but as far as I know, the first to have 11 on the pitch not from Britain or Ireland was another club, back when Arsenal still had the likes of Ashley Cole, Seaman, Keown and Parlour playing regularly (although I can't find any evidence supporting that just now, it's based on a memory of watching the game and hearing the commentator say it, which may be questionable)

**Supreme feet** · 10/02/2013, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

Arsenal were the first to name an entire 18 man squad with no British or Irish players in it, but as far as I know, the first to have 11 on the pitch not from Britain or Ireland was another club, back when Arsenal still had the likes of Ashley Cole, Seaman, Keown and Parlour playing regularly (although I can't find any evidence supporting that just now, it's based on a memory of watching the game and hearing the commentator say it, which may be questionable)

Wasn't it Chelsea? Back when Vialli was in charge?

**dr_peepee** · 10/02/2013, 11:51 AM

Think it was Chelsea too...

**peadar1987** · 10/02/2013, 11:57 AM

I'm fairly sure it was Bolton back in the days of Campo, Djorkaeff and Okocha. 2002-03-ish. I think Kevin Nolan was their only English player on the pitch, and he had to go off injured.

**Crosby87** · 10/02/2013, 12:45 PM

Let's test the knowledge of you heavyweights with 2 other Prem trivia Q's. No cheating.

Who was the first non British manager of Fulham?

What Prem Side was originally called St Domingos?

**brine3** · 10/02/2013, 12:54 PM

Jean Tigana wasn't it? He didn't last long.

**Crosby87** · 10/02/2013, 12:56 PM

yeah.

**Charlie Darwin** · 14/02/2013, 9:38 PM

**Grafter** · 14/02/2013, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Who's the babe?

**Crosby87** · 14/02/2013, 11:07 PM

Ian Harte, of course.

**SkStu** · 15/02/2013, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Grafter

Who's the babe?

Fat Pat Butcher off Eastenders. Great rack.

**AlaskaFox** · 16/02/2013, 7:06 PM

Where's the earrings? I am disappoint.

**gastric** · 18/02/2013, 8:05 AM

I reckon the Indo's campaign against Trap continue with this article and I think Harte seems to have been happy to contribute to it!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29077137.html

**Bungle** · 18/02/2013, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by gastric

I reckon the Indo's campaign against Trap continue with this article and I think Harte seems to have been happy to contribute to it!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29077137.html

If those text messages were on the phone, then it is a disgrace from Trap. If Kelly is lieing, then I would not pick him again. I do think we have become a total joke of a national team, with the kind of squabbles that you wouldn't even get from an under 10s team.

However, i am very concerned about Trap falling out with a good pro like Kelly. In my opinion, kelly should be no more than a squad player, but whether you think he deserves to be in the first x1 or not, he has always been very dedicated to the green shirt.

**Charlie Darwin** · 18/02/2013, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Bungle

If those text messages were on the phone, then it is a disgrace from Trap. If Kelly is lieing, then I would not pick him again. I do think we have become a total joke of a national team, with the kind of squabbles that you wouldn't even get from an under 10s team.

We've been over this earlier in the thread. It's a miscommunication, a common occurrence under Trap.

Basically

1. Kelly refused to board the plane to the Faroes, complaining there was no point if he'd never get a chance. Tardelli talked him around.
2. Trap told everyone.
3. Kelly is left out of the squad for Poland to try out younger players (i.e. Coleman)
4. Trap is being grilled in a press conference, and uses Kelly as an example of a player who has refused to play for his team (meaning the Faroes hoopla)
5. The media and Kelly assume Trap is saying he refused a call-up for the Poland game
6. Kelly gets upset and issues a deliberately ambiguous statement saying he never refused a call-up for the Poland game
7. Journalists ask Trap and he clarifies that he didn't mean Kelly refused a call-up, that he was talking about the Faroes debacle
8. Profit

**Junior** · 18/02/2013, 12:11 PM

I think Harte doesnt need the distraction of International football. He should focus on his parenting responsibilities..

Kaia's interest in football has grown to the extent that he describes her as football mad. "She knows what's going on now," the Drogheda native says, breaking into laughter. "I realised that when she came up to me and said: 'All the best against Chelsea tomorrow Dad... and can you get me John Terry's shirt'?"

I meant wtf are you doing Ian get a grip son..........

**Grafter** · 18/02/2013, 12:22 PM

My initial reaction upon picking up the paper this morning was a knowing grin and words to the effect "Ya gotta love Ian Harte"....

Okay so he disclosed one text message from Trap to Kelly that he was going to blood young lads versus Poland....
but am I right in saying that Harte held back from revealing this other "motherload" text from Trap to Kelly that was passed around Reading dressing room and in Harte's words would be "the end" of Trap?

i.e. there's a Trap text on S Kelly's phone that only Kelly and the Reading dressing room know about which could bring down Trap?

The plot thickens.......

**tetsujin1979** · 18/02/2013, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

We've been over this earlier in the thread. It's a miscommunication, a common occurrence under Trap.

Basically

1. Kelly refused to board the plane to the Faroes, complaining there was no point if he'd never get a chance. Tardelli talked him around.
2. Trap told everyone.
3. Kelly is left out of the squad for Poland to try out younger players (i.e. Coleman)
4. Trap is being grilled in a press conference, and uses Kelly as an example of a player who has refused to play for his team (meaning the Faroes hoopla)
5. The media and Kelly assume Trap is saying he refused a call-up for the Poland game
6. Kelly gets upset and issues a deliberately ambiguous statement saying he never refused a call-up for the Poland game
7. Journalists ask Trap and he clarifies that he didn't mean Kelly refused a call-up, that he was talking about the Faroes debacle
8. Profit

Point 2 didn't happen according to Keith Andrews' column: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...es-222192.html

Back in October, in the aftermath of the Germany game and during the build-up to the match in the Faroe Islands, it was widely reported that the boss and Stephen had a training ground bust-up. Well, having been on the training ground throughout all of that trip, I certainly didn’t witness any arguments. And nor did anyone else. The fact is that, whatever happened between the manager and Stephen, actually took place between them in private, so none of us players really know exactly what went on. All I can say is that Stephen travelled to the Faroes with the rest of the side as normal.

**Charlie Darwin** · 18/02/2013, 12:35 PM

You mean point one? As far as I know, all that was said was that Kelly refused to travel and had to be talked around. Without knowing Kelly, I'd have thought he'd have made his feelings known to the management in private so other players wouldn't have witnessed it.