Ian Harte

**Closed Account 2** · 23/05/2005, 2:16 AM

Doesnt look good for his club side (Levante) now tho... they drew 0-0 with Valencia but are a point adrift from Mallorca (who won at Deportivo 3-0). Levante face Villareal away (probably the hardest away fixture in la Liga, as Villareal have a great home record) and will almost certainly have to win.

**FarBeag** · 23/05/2005, 5:47 PM

I am no admirer of Harte but seeing that the likes of Doc, Quinn and Miller are there i think he should be in. I have more faith in him getting us the winner with a few minutes left in the game than any of these guys especially from a set piece.Give him a run against Celtic I say and have him in the squad against Israel.

**Superhoops** · 23/05/2005, 5:51 PM

Originally Posted by FarBeag

I am no admirer of Harte but seeing that the likes of Doc, Quinn and Miller are there i think he should be in. I have more faith in him getting us the winner with a few minutes left in the game than any of these guys especially from a set piece.Give him a run against Celtic I say and have him in the squad against Israel.

He is not joining the squad until Tuesday 31 May, so no Celtic game. He was named in the Israel/Faroes squad anyway!

**FarBeag** · 23/05/2005, 5:59 PM

Ok..Sorry my mistake. I guess try him in one of the others or am i being too optimistic here? I still think he would be good for a goal in the last 10 minutes or so if we needed.

**TerryPhelan** · 30/05/2005, 7:10 AM

Levante have been relegated. This could well mean a return to England (and hence a regular squad place

) for Harte.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/story.asp...6&n=9420658&x=
Villarreal and Real Betis secured their places in the Champions League qualifying rounds for next season, but there was despair for Levante who were relegated from the Primera Liga on an eventful final day in the Spanish top flight.

Villarreal came from behind to beat Levante 4-1, and condemn their opponents to the drop.

**jorge** · 30/05/2005, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by TerryPhelan

Levante have been relegated. This could well mean a return to England (and hence a regular squad place

) for Harte.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/story.asp...6&n=9420658&x=
Villarreal and Real Betis secured their places in the Champions League qualifying rounds for next season, but there was despair for Levante who were relegated from the Primera Liga on an eventful final day in the Spanish top flight.

Villarreal came from behind to beat Levante 4-1, and condemn their opponents to the drop.

I hope he stays in spain with another club but the chances of that are minimal

**JimmyP** · 30/05/2005, 10:16 AM

Apparently he wasn't even selected last night

**Plastic Paddy** · 30/05/2005, 10:26 AM

Maybe now's the time for that dream move home to the Boyneside. He should - just about - make the Drogs first XI...

PP

**Lionel Ritchie** · 30/05/2005, 10:29 AM

Wouldn't be at all surprised if Mick McCarthy came in for him.

**Roo69** · 30/05/2005, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by JimmyP

Apparently he wasn't even selected last night

Yeah, since the new management team have come in he has'nt even been making the squad for matches. a summer move is DEFO on the cards for him. Sunderland maybe ?

**Donal81** · 30/05/2005, 11:01 AM

Taken from yesterday's Sunday Times (by Dave Hannigan):

"Upon succeeding Bernd Schuster as Levante coach earlier this month, one of Jose Luis Oltra's first moves was to drop Ian Harte. The team had be haemorrhaging goals on its descent down La Primera Liga table and the left-back was one of thse deemed culpable. Harte hasn't made the Levante bench in their last two games and is already being linked with a move back to England. In all the brouhaha surrounding his recall to the Ireland squad, it shouldn't be forgotten that a season battling relegation in Spain - they are expected to lose the fight at Villareal today - has done little for his defensive shortcomings."

**Tired&Emotional** · 30/05/2005, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Donal81

Taken from yesterday's Sunday Times (by Dave Hannigan):

"Upon succeeding Bernd Schuster as Levante coach earlier this month, one of Jose Luis Oltra's first moves was to drop Ian Harte. The team had be haemorrhaging goals on its descent down La Primera Liga table and the left-back was one of thse deemed culpable. Harte hasn't made the Levante bench in their last two games and is already being linked with a move back to England. In all the brouhaha surrounding his recall to the Ireland squad, it shouldn't be forgotten that a season battling relegation in Spain - they are expected to lose the fight at Villareal today - has done little for his defensive shortcomings."

...says it all really!!

**ColinR** · 30/05/2005, 11:40 AM

i'd pretty much ignore anything that hannigan writes. however, i'd say if you looked at levante's form over the season, they have won much more points with harte in the team than without. their dip in form arrived after a good start, harte got injured around the same time, and so cannot really be blamed for all the goals they conceeded when he was injured, but maybe some of detractors would still blame him for that as well

**Glacky** · 30/05/2005, 11:55 AM

Levante were relegated last night.

Harte hasn't been in the side or on sub's bench last couple of weeks as has been dropped despite being one of their highest earners.

I went to Levante v Valencia last week and Levante fans said he has been poor recently.

**Donal81** · 30/05/2005, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by ColinR

i'd pretty much ignore anything that hannigan writes. however, i'd say if you looked at levante's form over the season, they have won much more points with harte in the team than without. their dip in form arrived after a good start, harte got injured around the same time, and so cannot really be blamed for all the goals they conceeded when he was injured, but maybe some of detractors would still blame him for that as well

What's wrong with Hannigan? I don't read the Sunday Times much but I would have thought he has a decent reputation.

**Tired&Emotional** · 30/05/2005, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by Donal81

What's wrong with Hannigan? I don't read the Sunday Times much but I would have thought he has a decent reputation.

....not only that but he seems to be reporting simple facts here not throwing about wild comments...!!

**ColinR** · 30/05/2005, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by Tired&Emotional

....not only that but he seems to be reporting simple facts here not throwing about wild comments...!!

maybe its just my personal opinion, but i've never like him for a lot of personal attacks on mccarthy on some of his players around 2001 - will not read an article of his, and have not since then. but i will go through what he has said here:

"Upon succeeding Bernd Schuster as Levante coach earlier this month, one of Jose Luis Oltra's first moves was to drop Ian Harte. The team had be haemorrhaging goals on its descent down La Primera Liga table and the left-back was one of thse deemed culpable. Harte hasn't made the Levante bench in their last two games and is already being linked with a move back to England. In all the brouhaha surrounding his recall to the Ireland squad, it shouldn't be forgotten that a season battling relegation in Spain - they are expected to lose the fight at Villareal today - has done little for his defensive shortcomings"

harte was not in the team when they were 'haemorrhaging goals' - as he was injured. up until his injury they were doing well, and defensively - whilst not water tight, they were as solid as any other mid table spainish team.

i'd say the last bit about his defensive shortcommings is opinion and not fact - has he watched levante's games all seasons, or is he just making a small sniping remark because of its conclusion. harte had around four very solid months before injury when he was quite strong defensively by all accounts (sky showed very little of levante in the early part of the season when they were doing well) - only the real game, where harte was outpaced for one goal (owen's i think).

now, since then he is out injured for a few months and comes back into the team with the worst form in the league. does hanningon mention this (because if he did, then he would be reporting facts!)?

**Tired&Emotional** · 30/05/2005, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by ColinR

maybe its just my personal opinion, but i've never like him for a lot of personal attacks on mccarthy on some of his players around 2001 - will not read an article of his, and have not since then. but i will go through what he has said here:

"Upon succeeding Bernd Schuster as Levante coach earlier this month, one of Jose Luis Oltra's first moves was to drop Ian Harte. The team had be haemorrhaging goals on its descent down La Primera Liga table and the left-back was one of thse deemed culpable. Harte hasn't made the Levante bench in their last two games and is already being linked with a move back to England. In all the brouhaha surrounding his recall to the Ireland squad, it shouldn't be forgotten that a season battling relegation in Spain - they are expected to lose the fight at Villareal today - has done little for his defensive shortcomings"

harte was not in the team when they were 'haemorrhaging goals' - as he was injured. up until his injury they were doing well, and defensively - whilst not water tight, they were as solid as any other mid table spainish team.

i'd say the last bit about his defensive shortcommings is opinion and not fact - has he watched levante's games all seasons, or is he just making a small sniping remark because of its conclusion. harte had around four very solid months before injury when he was quite strong defensively by all accounts (sky showed very little of levante in the early part of the season when they were doing well) - only the real game, where harte was outpaced for one goal (owen's i think).

now, since then he is out injured for a few months and comes back into the team with the worst form in the league. does hanningon mention this (because if he did, then he would be reporting facts!)?

Fair comments, I bow to your superior knowledge of Harte & Levante - God knows, I certainly haven't looked at it that closely

. Hannigan may be selective with the "facts" (like any journalise, I suppose) but the general consensus would be that Harte ain't part of a team that would that would benefit him in fighting for an International place, he's not the player he was

, and our squad now has better quality bearing in mind he has only been called up for cover.

Just don't think he's up to standard anymore and Hannigan reflects my opinions even if lit "SEEMS"

to be loosely based on the facts.

**ColinR** · 30/05/2005, 3:41 PM

Originally Posted by Tired&Emotional

Fair comments, I bow to your superior knowledge of Harte & Levante - God knows, I certainly haven't looked at it that closely

. Hannigan may be selective with the "facts" (like any journalise, I suppose) but the general consensus would be that Harte ain't part of a team that would that would benefit him in fighting for an International place, he's not the player he was

, and our squad now has better quality bearing in mind he has only been called up for cover.

Just don't think he's up to standard anymore and Hannigan reflects my opinions even if lit "SEEMS"

to be loosely based on the facts.

not claiming to have any superior knowledge of harte and levante, just doubting if hannigan has any. my only problem with your original post is that you say hannigan is stating facts, when all i could see is opinion (all i've read is the paragraph on here).

anyway, as i said here before, harte is not good enough to start, however, i think he is a much better option than the other cover left full players, and as such should be picked ahead of them