Fines for flares and smoke canisters

**BohsPartisan** · 10/04/2008, 5:45 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I've had the misfortune of standing next to idiots with them in a packed stand a couple of times, and it's not an experience I relished. It certainly felt dangerous - though obviously you won't be happy until someone self-imolates...

Given that football tops are made of the sort of material that goes up like a bonfire, I personally have zero interest in being near tw@ts with flares when I'm wearing one...

The statistical likelihood of being injured by a flare at a football match is low compared to the statistical likelihood of you getting hurt on your way to the game or by some other factor (like being cut by rusty metal) at the game. Are Bray going to wait until someone gets their leg amputated to ban rusty seats?

**Rovers1** · 10/04/2008, 5:52 PM

Originally Posted by forza

Pats fans had them up last year to get over it

to get over what? were ye all sick?

**dcfcsteve** · 10/04/2008, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

The statistical likelihood of being injured by a flare at a football match is low compared to the statistical likelihood of you getting hurt on your way to the game or by some other factor (like being cut by rusty metal) at the game. Are Bray going to wait until someone gets their leg amputated to ban rusty seats?

Bray's stadium has a safety certificate - incl its seats.

Meanwhile - no stadium is allowed to have flares. I don't see what is so difficult to grasp about this.

I guess if teenagers started waving Bray's rusty seats around in a crowded place 'for the buzz' and to create a 'mad atmosphere', then those seats would probably also face a ban. But not before.

**GavinZac** · 10/04/2008, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Bray's stadium has a safety certificate - incl its seats.

Meanwhile - no stadium is allowed to have flares. I don't see what is so difficult to grasp about this.

I guess if teenagers started waving Bray's rusty seats around in a crowded place 'for the buzz' and to create a 'mad atmosphere', then those seats would probably also face a ban. But not before.

I'd imagine the flares would play havoc with the manuscripts of your latest best seller too

**Red Army** · 10/04/2008, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Bray's stadium has a safety certificate - incl its seats.

Meanwhile - no stadium is allowed to have flares. I don't see what is so difficult to grasp about this.

I guess if teenagers started waving Bray's rusty seats around in a crowded place 'for the buzz' and to create a 'mad atmosphere', then those seats would probably also face a ban. But not before.

Rules are rules blah blah blah

**A face** · 10/04/2008, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Red Army

Rules are rules blah blah blah

Have to agree with this Steve. How come every advert/promotion clip of the league has flares in it, as a focal point and they are outlawed here with the fines regime and all the noise about them? Rules are there to be broken, to a certain extent. I know the argument against them, yeah yeah yeah, all well and good but i agree with Red Army on this one.

When AC Milan stop using them i'll agree with the ruling.

**celticV3** · 10/04/2008, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Meanwhile - no stadium is allowed to have flares. I don't see what is so difficult to grasp about this.

i think we all know a convincing argument on the internet is not going to get anything changed and flares will always be banned everyone has grasped that, if you can make your way back to the 1st post my point was that flares and the likes are used al over the world but seem to be enforced more heavily here in a smaller league for the profit of the F.A.I. i know the F.A.I have to impose these rules but why are the bigger leagues allowed to get away with it, they are in the public eye a lot more than the LOI?

**mypost** · 11/04/2008, 12:29 AM

How often do you see flares in the PL? How often do you see them in Spain? Because they're banned, with good reason.

I accept that they look good, but from a safety and financial point of view, they're OB.

**GavinZac** · 11/04/2008, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

How often do you see flares in the PL? How often do you see them in Spain? Because they're banned, with good reason.

I accept that they look good, but from a safety and financial point of view, they're OB.

You don't see them in the EPL because you can't fart without some moaning day trippers alerting security.

You don't see them in Spain because Spain don't have ultras. I don't know why, but they don't. Perhaps something to do with the likelihood of being shot at by Franco's troops.

**dcfcsteve** · 11/04/2008, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

I'd imagine the flares would play havoc with the manuscripts of your latest best seller too

What best seller ?

**Macy** · 11/04/2008, 7:28 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

How often do you see flares in the PL? How often do you see them in Spain? Because they're banned, with good reason.

Flares are considered a firearm under UK legislation, that's why you don't see them in England.

**p�l-dcfc** · 11/04/2008, 8:35 AM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

I'd imagine the flares would play havoc with the manuscripts of your latest best seller too

POTM

**forza** · 11/04/2008, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

You don't see them in the EPL because you can't fart without some moaning day trippers alerting security.

You don't see them in Spain because Spain don't have ultras. I don't know why, but they don't. Perhaps something to do with the likelihood of being shot at by Franco's troops.

Spain has Ultras off my head Bilbao, Barcalona, Real Madrid 2 groups, Athletico Madrid, Betis I could go on all day

**forza** · 11/04/2008, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers1

to get over what? were ye all sick?

I dont get bus sick chum.

Cant be arsed reading back but you mentioned something about us and tri colours and the rest of the clubs having problems.

Not our fault that we never have problems hanging them up there

**grounded** · 11/04/2008, 2:31 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

You don't see them in Spain because Spain don't have ultras. I don't know why, but they don't. Perhaps something to do with the likelihood of being shot at by Franco's troops.

Stand to be corrected here but this is from Real Madrid. Think it says Ultras in the display

**mypost** · 11/04/2008, 4:54 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

something to do with the likelihood of being shot at by Franco's troops.

GavinZac thinks it's pre-1975.

**oldyouth** · 11/04/2008, 9:25 PM

Sorry, but back to the thread. To me, I go to a footy match to watch The Beautiful Game and discuss various aspects of it (offside, great touch, hard luck, bleedin' plonker etc) with whoever is beside me. I don't give a **ck about flares, displays Ultras (wtf) banners, 'being served', unless it is in a pub.
Enjoy the game, celebrate a victory, be dismayed at a defeat, get a dvd at Xtravision for pyrotechnical displays

**oldyouth** · 12/04/2008, 7:35 AM

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**BohsPartisan** · 12/04/2008, 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

How often do you see flares in the PL?

What have the EPL and the moon got in common?

No atmosphere.

Fire is atmospheric. Thats why women think a log fire is romantic, why pilgrims to Lourdes get excited at the torchlight procession and part of how the Nazis came to power.

**deecay** · 12/04/2008, 7:17 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

What have the EPL and the moon got in common?

No atmosphere.

Fire is atmospheric. Thats why women think a log fire is romantic, why pilgrims to Lourdes get excited at the torchlight procession and part of how the Nazis came to power.

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