What has singing and shouting got to do with atmosphere? It only makes you hoarse and is a distraction to those around you trying to complete their sudoku puzzles.Originally Posted by Poor Student
FFS!
They don't compare. Singing and chanting is the integral aspect of football atmosphere. It enhances the experience. Lighting a smoking cannister offers nothing but annoyance and obstruction. The only argument I've seen offered in favour of it is experiencing "the rush of using pyro". I got over that stage the first time I lit a match when I was five.
1st of all their rubbing ignition and is that why your not aloud stand in the bowl?They don't compare. Singing and chanting is the integral aspect of football atmosphere. It enhances the experience. Lighting a smoking cannister offers nothing but annoyance and obstruction. The only argument I've seen offered in favour of it is experiencing "the rush of using pyro". I got over that stage the first time I lit a match when I was five.
Last edited by forza rovers; 06/04/2008 at 7:27 PM.
Stop trying to talk big,as I stated its all an visual affect.Comparing a match to a flareThey don't compare. Singing and chanting is the integral aspect of football atmosphere. It enhances the experience. Lighting a smoking cannister offers nothing but annoyance and obstruction. The only argument I've seen offered in favour of it is experiencing "the rush of using pyro". I got over that stage the first time I lit a match when I was five.
RIP JOHNNY
We were told to sit and I laughed,a pity others around me wouldnt stand up to one old man telling us to sit.We sat,then moved out into the rain and stood
RIP JOHNNY
I believe I was the last man standing.
Life without Rovers, it makes no sense...it's a heartache...nothing but a fools game. S.R.F.C.
RoryH you and me were the last 3 im pretty sure,taught it was me last to sit
RIP JOHNNY
After this they got a €3000 fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2qFFv8SZtU&NR=1
So if you think Bohs are big read this. http://www.astronomy.ie/perpespective.html
Pavlov could have predicted the response to this one.
Flares are ridiculously over-rated in-terms of what they add to atmosphere, and are frankly a hazard in crowded places. End of story.
Flares are also banned by UEFA and FIFA. End of story.
Therefore - no amount of endless gurning on here, or accusations towards the FAI of having a dark plot to destroy atmosphere at games, is going to do anything to reverse that stance by football's governing bodies. End. Of. Story.
So get over it. This thread comes up every few months with the same old 'FAI trying to kill atmosphere' ballax. I can't believe there's so many slow learners on here who just don't get it...
Well said that man.
This is not the FAI out to get anybody, it's a rule they have to comply with.
It's a visual effect. Just like card or flag displays. It won't encourage anyone to sing and support their team throughout the game but you can not deny the effect a proper organised display can have on the players when they come out onto the pitch.
Some people like it some people dont. Each to their own I suppose but looking at countries like France, Italy, Argentina and even Germany the athmosphere at their games tend to better where there are Ultras groups using flares and smoke for their displays.
Have to agree with you there Steve. They are dangerous and are rightfully banned!
However, if the FAI have gotten into bed with RTE to show MNS why do they allow RTE to have a flare display in the opening sequence!!!!
Now a fine for firing till rolls or bog rolls is just plain ridiculous!!!
That's a very good point. Infact television stations around Europe have them in there when advertising big games.
Shouldn't they be fined too for promoting that sort of thing?
The issue outlined by the OP is not whether flares etc are allowed or not, but the fines imposed. In a league where money is already tight these fines hurt the clubs hard. It is difficult for clubs to stop this from happening. Short of strip searching how are clubs supposed to stop people bringing in flares. If flares are lit up the security should be commended for get the situation under control quickly. Maybe CCTV should be installed and anyone who lights up flares be ejected and banned from the ground, a report send to the FAI to explain how the situation was handled. No need for fines. Just corrective action. Clubs who do nothing should get the fine. Some say that fans should no better but most fans dont hurt their own club, they bring flares to away matches and could care less about the fines.
flares are not dangerous if they are used corectly. Sure flares thrown onto the pitch or at opposing fans would be dangerous but i dont think anyone who uses them at games here would even consider using them for that purpose. Fireworks are dangerous and have caused more injuries and deaths than flares. Flares being dangerous is a myth.
Poor Student, take a look at some of these displays and tell me if you dont think they look good and add to atmosphere. Well organised smoke and flare displays, as mentioned earlier, could get a lot more bums on seats in my opinion.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...2shels0007.jpg
http://www.notoriousbooboys.com/display0507pats.html
http://www.notoriousbooboys.com/display0607rovers.html
Last edited by SkStu; 07/04/2008 at 6:09 PM.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
no way man!! its far too smoky!!
*cough cough*
*wheeze*
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Won't somebody please think of the students!
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All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.
I still think the best ever post on foot.ie was the Derry fan complaining about the danger flares posed to his novelty wig.
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