Is Ronaldo the best in the world?

**micls** · 23/04/2008, 8:11 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

It is but you have to take into account Messi's overall play in general against Ronaldo's overall play. Say Messi gets hit with a hard tackle, he either shrugs it off or gets up and gets on with it, with Ronaldo you get the theatrics on the floor. With Messi he looks a danger attacking the goal himself, or running down the wing and getting the ball into the box, with Ronaldo I still don't think he's a great crosser of the ball. He's better in pretty much every way, even after a lenghty lay off

I completely agree with you, I just dont think the one game face off that the tabloids have been building it up is the way to compare players.

**jebus** · 23/04/2008, 8:20 PM

Originally Posted by micls

I completely agree with you, I just dont think the one game face off that the tabloids have been building it up is the way to compare players.

It's not, but I do dislike Ronaldo immensely so I'll be crowing about it tomorrow

**old git** · 23/04/2008, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Pike B

That diving S..t really annoys me. Watched a super doc last week called 'Football's gone soft'. Souness would have ended Ronaldo's career, had they played in the same era.. The bloke's a sissy girl..

bit fond of going down the odd occasion ,, the annoying part is you then see him being brave to score a great headed goal against roma .. will add he is not the only one who could be called a sissy girl did you see his big sisters last night drogba the no 1 diver around / torres and even captain fantastic stevie gee to name a few .. unfortunatly it is part of the modern game and looks like their managers are not doing enough to stamp it out

**old git** · 23/04/2008, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dunny2K7

Seconded..and Im a United fan...

even ya ya toure was streets ahead of ronaldo tonigh

**rambler14** · 23/04/2008, 10:56 PM

On tonights evidence...........NO!

Paul Scholes, Xavi and Messi looked like orld beaters tonight. Where as Ronaldo looked like a relegation candidate with Derby.

**celticV3** · 23/04/2008, 11:14 PM

too many people too quick to judge a man on one performance. i hate ronaldo but cannot tell if a player is the best in the world on one bad performances

**cartman** · 24/04/2008, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by celticV3

too many people too quick to judge a man on one performance. i hate ronaldo but cannot tell if a player is the best in the world on one bad performances

i thought it was a splendid performance by ronaldo tonight

- just as good as he was against arsenal...
whats that he has contributed in those two huge games - 1 penalty scored and 1 penalty missed... a lot of arms flailing about complaining and bitching at refs and teammates - and very little skill, effort, enthusiasm or any sort of workrate at all...
more huge games to come for united - and it will be more of the same from their golden boy... without scholes and ferdinand tonight united's dreams would be over..i mean is anyone shocked at all that he contributed nothing positively again to united's cause tonight?? even his diehard supporters have to give it a rest now...
seriously, who was crazy enough to start a thread asking if this clown is the best player in the world???

**Morbo** · 24/04/2008, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

It is but you have to take into account Messi's overall play in general against Ronaldo's overall play. Say Messi gets hit with a hard tackle, he either shrugs it off or gets up and gets on with it, with Ronaldo you get the theatrics on the floor. With Messi he looks a danger attacking the goal himself, or running down the wing and getting the ball into the box, with Ronaldo I still don't think he's a great crosser of the ball. He's better in pretty much every way, even after a lenghty lay off

Yup, fully agree with that, I also think he has a much better footballing brain than Ronaldo, takes a player on at the right time, makes the simple pass at the right time, he always chooses the high percentage play whilst with Ronaldo I think he is more likely to go for the spectacular just for the glory of it, its all about making himself look good, winning is secondary

**Pike B** · 24/04/2008, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Morbo

Yup, fully agree with that, I also think he has a much better footballing brain than Ronaldo, takes a player on at the right time, makes the simple pass at the right time, he always chooses the high percentage play whilst with Ronaldo I think he is more likely to go for the spectacular just for the glory of it, its all about making himself look good, winning is secondary

Ronaldo is better in the air, and gets more goals. Everywhere else Messi is better.

**shakermaker1982** · 24/04/2008, 1:35 PM

would you say Messi is quicker than Ronaldo?

**Pike B** · 24/04/2008, 2:23 PM

Over first five yards no doubt. Henry said recently he never saw anyone quicker than Leo over the first 5. Over distance Ronaldo.

**razor** · 24/04/2008, 2:23 PM

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

would you say Messi is quicker than Ronaldo?

At running or at falling to the ground?

**cartman** · 24/04/2008, 2:25 PM

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

would you say Messi is quicker than Ronaldo?

over 20 yards - ronaldo is quicker..
over 5 yards - id say messi is as quick as him

but the big thing is in a game situation when theres very little space to go past players [like last night with united having a 10 man defence] messi can burst past players in tight spaces because of his pace and unbelievalble ball control..kaka would be very similar in that regard too..
as for ronaldo, i just don't think hes capable of that.. hes needs space to run into behind the defenders to hurt a team.. i dont think he has a patch of the ball skills of messi/kaka in close quarters with loads of defenders around him..
because of this i'd liken ronaldo more to kevin kilbane than messi.. its just hes a few yards quicker than kilbane

**Pike B** · 24/04/2008, 2:28 PM

Originally Posted by cartman

over 20 yards - ronaldo is quicker..
over 5 yards - id say messi is as quick as him

but the big thing is in a game situation when theres very little space to go past players [like last night with united having a 10 man defence] messi can burst past players in tight spaces because of his pace and unbelievalble ball control..kaka would be very similar in that regard too..
as for ronaldo, i just don't think hes capable of that.. hes needs space to run into behind the defenders to hurt a team.. i dont think he has a patch of the ball skills of messi/kaka in close quarters with loads of defenders around him..
because of this i'd liken ronaldo more to kevin kilbane than messi.. its just hes a few yards quicker than kilbane

I agreed with everything you said until the Kilbane bit...

**Junior** · 25/04/2008, 9:29 AM

Originally Posted by cartman

because of this i'd liken ronaldo more to kevin kilbane than messi.. its just hes a few yards quicker than kilbane

POTM Nomination? Thats funny...............

**stojkovic** · 26/04/2008, 5:27 PM

I'd have Messi, Kaka and Torres ahead of the Ladyboy CRonaldo.

**Flawless** · 27/04/2008, 12:55 AM

For me, Ronblado just hasnt done it on the biggest stage to be considered the best yet, he has been the form player this year, but wont be "The Best" until he produces consistently at the highest level.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 27/04/2008, 1:14 AM

Originally Posted by colin10

id personally much prefer to be quicker over 20 yards than quicker over 5 yards

And what if the defender is equally as quick? The advantage of being quick over a short distance is that you are taking on the defender while he isn't moving and catching him flat footed. I don't think Ronaldo would have as much success in La Liga as in the Premiership as in Spain the defences sit more deep, leaving less space in behind. It's why Torres went from only scoring aroun 15 a season in Spain to 20+ in England.