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    I think thats his fourth goal against the Arse in 9 games. Man Utd on the whole were very disappointing yesterday. Even Scholes gave the ball away which happens once every blue moon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    hahaha.. hes a genius - total footballing god... he scored a penalty yesterday - not even that, he scored it twice!! oh wowwww...
    total genius - its been proved.. close this thread lads, the debate is over ... its been proven beyond doubt how good ronaldo is after he scored a penalty yesterday...

    by any chance, does anyone think that clichy totally had him in his pocket any time that clown was near him... only for the penalty, you wouldnt have known he was playing
    haha. Im only kidding you're right he had no influence on the result at all.

    someone put this eejit back in his playpen.........
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    Ronaldo was very much average against Arsenal. He tried to get into the game by drifting around the pitch but the Arsenal team knew how to handle him. They got close to him every time he got the ball and didn't let him turn and run at them. Plus the gunners have speed all over the team which means Ronaldo couldn't outpace them. And if he can't outpace the opposition, he's got nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionelhutz View Post
    Ronaldo was very much average against Arsenal. He tried to get into the game by drifting around the pitch but the Arsenal team knew how to handle him. They got close to him every time he got the ball and didn't let him turn and run at them. Plus the gunners have speed all over the team which means Ronaldo couldn't outpace them. And if he can't outpace the opposition, he's got nothing.
    other than his skill, tricks, heading ability and shooting. Yeah take away his pace and he's crap!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    and we will all see why, in the next few weeks against arsenal, chelsea and in the champs league semis when he goes hiding as usual..
    Quote Originally Posted by lionelhutz View Post
    Plus the gunners have speed all over the team which means Ronaldo couldn't outpace them. And if he can't outpace the opposition, he's got nothing.
    Apart from a decent sized pair of gonads perhaps? Hardly hiding was he?

    I seem to recall Ruud Van Nistleroy not being so cool at a recent Arsenal game at Old Trafford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior View Post
    Apart from a decent sized pair of gonads perhaps? Hardly hiding was he?

    I seem to recall Ruud Van Nistleroy not being so cool at a recent Arsenal game at Old Trafford.
    welcome to the land of the plebs- captained by our very own foot.ie andy capp Junior...
    look, this thread is about whether ronaldo is the best in the world at the moment... well, once more yesterday - in another big game - he had no impact whatsoever...average is kind way of describing his performance...
    there must have been at least a dozen players at old trafford yesterday who totally outshone him???? i said he goes hiding in the big games - and he continues to do that...
    he scored a penalty though - he must be a genius junior[aka pleb]

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    welcome to the land of the plebs- captained by our very own foot.ie andy capp Junior...
    look, this thread is about whether ronaldo is the best in the world at the moment... well, once more yesterday - in another big game - he had no impact whatsoever...average is kind way of describing his performance...
    there must have been at least a dozen players at old trafford yesterday who totally outshone him???? i said he goes hiding in the big games - and he continues to do that...
    he scored a penalty though - he must be a genius junior[aka pleb]
    Welcome to the land of bans. Who do you support today by the way? I happen to agree with you but I don't see why you have to insult people whilst making your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    its one thing doing it against villa or fulham but look how poor he was in the cl semi final last year v milan when he came up against top quality opposition. i actually think torres, fabregas, messi and kaka are currently better players and im sure there are others out there that i dont see regularly
    Torres, Fabregas, Messi or Kaka won't win world player of the year, I think Roanaldo will and he'll deserve it.
    Last year against Milan was a bad night for the whole team who were just outclassed by a very inspired Milan team on the night. Not entirely Ronaldo's fault.
    And as for yesterday against the gooners, you can't expect the lad to be exceptional in every game he plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmurphyc View Post
    Welcome to the land of bans. Who do you support today by the way? I happen to agree with you but I don't see why you have to insult people whilst making your point.
    because junior is a pleb.. its not an insult... its a fact..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis The Red View Post
    Torres, Fabregas, Messi or Kaka won't win world player of the year, I think Roanaldo will and he'll deserve it.
    Last year against Milan was a bad night for the whole team who were just outclassed by a very inspired Milan team on the night. Not entirely Ronaldo's fault.
    And as for yesterday against the gooners, you can't expect the lad to be exceptional in every game he plays.
    I still don't think he's proved himself fully against top sides yet. However, he's still quite young and he will eventually start to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmurphyc View Post
    I still don't think he's proved himself fully against top sides yet. However, he's still quite young and he will eventually start to do this.
    is there anyone out there who thinks someone like fabregas is a better player than ronaldo???
    personally, i think theres no comparison at the moment - fabregas is a much more intelligent player who has a huge impact on every game for arsenal..and he never shies away in the big games...
    i wonder is it a case of the sky sports generation on here ranting about how good ronaldo is?? all hype and bluff - very little substance though...

    and before people start ranting on about himscoring 30 odd goals as substance - two things :
    [1] how many of those were penalties?
    [2] the likes of darren bent scored 20 odd goals last year - so scoring goals alone doen't prove you are a great footballer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis The Red View Post
    And as for yesterday against the gooners, you can't expect the lad to be exceptional in every game he plays.
    You left out "big" between "every" and "game".

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    is there anyone out there who thinks someone like fabregas is a better player than ronaldo???
    personally, i think theres no comparison at the moment - fabregas is a much more intelligent player who has a huge impact on every game for arsenal..and he never shies away in the big games...
    i wonder is it a case of the sky sports generation on here ranting about how good ronaldo is?? all hype and bluff - very little substance though...

    and before people start ranting on about himscoring 30 odd goals as substance - two things :
    [1] how many of those were penalties?
    [2] the likes of darren bent scored 20 odd goals last year - so scoring goals alone doen't prove you are a great footballer
    Fabregas is another player who I feel is overrated by many. There's no doubt that he's an excellent player but he's had a poor second half to this season. I know Arsenal have been poor overall but anytime I've seen him recently he has been relatively anonymous. I don't feel he has the experience to impose himself in almost every game yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    welcome to the land of the plebs- captained by our very own foot.ie andy capp Junior...
    look, this thread is about whether ronaldo is the best in the world at the moment... well, once more yesterday - in another big game - he had no impact whatsoever...average is kind way of describing his performance...
    there must have been at least a dozen players at old trafford yesterday who totally outshone him???? i said he goes hiding in the big games - and he continues to do that...
    he scored a penalty though - he must be a genius junior[aka pleb]
    Thats simply not true (whether he performed at Sunday League standard or not on the day). He scored a pressure penalty (twice) at a crucial time. You can think that is insignifcant all you want, Im not saying it makes him world class either but I am saying "he didnt hide as usual" as you say he does.

    Now back in the pen - good boy.

    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    i wonder is it a case of the sky sports generation on here ranting about how good ronaldo is?? all hype and bluff - very little substance though...
    as opposed to the XBOX / FIFA07 generation I supose - yer some man (boy) cartman!!
    Last edited by Junior; 14/04/2008 at 1:08 PM.
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    oh sorry lads... he didn't just score a penalty yesterday - he scored it twice!! ooooooooh wow... get a grip junior...some awful shi*te being spouted here... if i recall correctly tony cascarino scored a penalty in the shootout against romania in '90.. he must have been a world beater.. point being - this penalty stuff is totally irrelevant

    he did nothing of note in the game yesterday in general play - yet he is being considered the greatest player in the world.. how can you be a bystander in so many games and yet be considered a great player... it just doesnt add up

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    he did nothing of note in the game yesterday in general play
    He did a wonderful break dance type dive at the end in the corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    oh sorry lads... he didn't just score a penalty yesterday - he scored it twice!! ooooooooh wow... get a grip junior...some awful shi*te being spouted here... if i recall correctly tony cascarino scored a penalty in the shootout against romania in '90.. he must have been a world beater.. point being - this penalty stuff is totally irrelevant

    he did nothing of note in the game yesterday in general play - yet he is being considered the greatest player in the world.. how can you be a bystander in so many games and yet be considered a great player... it just doesnt add up
    Jaysus cartman you'd want to relax and take a chill pill. Your blood pressure must be sky high and i bet the veins are bulging out of your skull!!

    At the same time, whilst not being as melodramatic as your good self, I concur with the majority of your argument. I believe Cristiano does disappear in the most significant games and has minimal impact.

    In addition, it would be best advisable to cease the insults or someone will end up kicking you square in the nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    oh sorry lads... he didn't just score a penalty yesterday - he scored it twice!! ooooooooh wow... get a grip junior...some awful shi*te being spouted here
    What ****e have I spouted. Please use the Quote function, good boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmurphyc View Post
    I never said that Cristiano Ronaldo was as good as Zidane. However, it's just my opinion that he's overrated as a player. I don't think he's one of the all time true greats. He was one of the best of his generation, but not of all time. I've held this opinion for a long time and it had nothing to do with his antics in the 2006 final. As I said, it's just my opinion and you're entitled to yours.
    we are all entitled to our opinions .. lets don't forget ronaldo is still a young player he has plenty of time ahead of him to try and match some of zidane achivements which happen over the course of his career .. pike b dont forget just because you win european cups / world cups / euro champsionships does not make you a great player zidane was part are part of good / great teams to win these awards .
    a lot of average players have won above competitions and a lot of great players have not even got close to winning any of above

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman View Post
    oh sorry lads... he didn't just score a penalty yesterday - he scored it twice!! ooooooooh wow... get a grip junior...some awful shi*te being spouted here... if i recall correctly tony cascarino scored a penalty in the shootout against romania in '90.. he must have been a world beater.. point being - this penalty stuff is totally irrelevant

    he did nothing of note in the game yesterday in general play - yet he is being considered the greatest player in the world.. how can you be a bystander in so many games and yet be considered a great player... it just doesnt add up
    you havent a clue if you think ronaldo is on the same level as tony cascarino

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