Worst Irish 11 since 1980

**Bluebeard** · 31/03/2008, 3:50 PM

Originally Posted by Seagull-4-life

gary doherty anyone???

Same as with Alan O'Brien - we're talking about people who have played for Ireland. My memories of GD in an Ireland shirt are mostly of him wandering onto the field looking for a stray puppy that had escaped his clutches while watching the match from the stands.

**Seagull-4-life** · 31/03/2008, 3:51 PM

he was a cult hero but that was lads just taking the mick...centre half/striker what a lad...couldn't play in either though

**Wangball** · 31/03/2008, 3:53 PM

I'm not sure there should be any currently available players in anyones team, quite frankly I'd be willing to forget John O'Shea's many many deficincies if he were to stick the winner in against Italy in the upcoming qualifiers...point is how can you judge a players international career when its nowhere near over?!

**Seagull-4-life** · 31/03/2008, 3:54 PM

Originally Posted by Wangball

I'm not sure there should be any currently available players in anyones team, quite frankly I'd be willing to forget John O'Shea's many many deficincies if he were to stick the winner in against Italy in the upcoming qualifiers...point is how can you judge a players international career when its nowhere near over?!

I'd say Paul McShane's nearly is over

**jmurphyc** · 31/03/2008, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by Seagull-4-life

I'd say Paul McShane's nearly is over

A 21 (?) year old centre half's Ireland career is nearly over? Dunne wasn't exactly setting the world alight when he was that age and now he's one of the best in Europe IMO.

**Wangball** · 31/03/2008, 3:59 PM

McShane has a long career ahead of him, maybe not as an automatic starter but he'll be a feature of our squad for quite some time and again his performances against San Marino et al will be soon forgotten if he turns out a few more as good as his debut

**Morbo** · 31/03/2008, 3:59 PM

Having Bonner, Reid and McAteer on that list is a joke, Bonner is probably our 2nd best keeper of the last 25 years, Reid has been unlucky with injuries but even if you just judge him by the 10 games he has played then he is hardly in the worst 11, as for McAteer, he had some poor games but he also had some very good games and he came up big for Ireland in some crucial matches and we wouldn't have qualified for WC2002 without him.

For me Conolley is by far the worst Irish player to have achieved 40+ capps, he never once scored a goal against a good team in a game that mattered

**Seagull-4-life** · 31/03/2008, 4:02 PM

Originally Posted by Morbo

Having Bonner, Reid and McAteer on that list is a joke, Bonner is probably our 2nd best keeper of the last 25 years, Reid has been unlucky with injuries but even if you just judge him by the 10 games he has played then he is hardly in the worst 11, as for McAteer, he had some poor games but he also had some very good games and he came up big for Ireland in some crucial matches and we wouldn't have qualified for WC2002 without him.

For me Conolley is by far the worst Irish player to have achieved 40+ capps, he never once scored a goal against a good team in a game that mattered

agree...didn't mean mcshane would never play again like but i doubt he'll be 1st choice possibly ever again...not even making it onto the bench at sundireland at the mo

**Seagull-4-life** · 31/03/2008, 4:13 PM

Paddy Kenny is a good goalkeeper...definitely been worse players than him in the last few years mate sorry

**jmurphyc** · 31/03/2008, 4:14 PM

Originally Posted by Seagull-4-life

agree...didn't mean mcshane would never play again like but i doubt he'll be 1st choice possibly ever again...not even making it onto the bench at sundireland at the mo

He's a player that Ferguson wanted to keep. That, to me, suggests he has potential. Whilst he hasn't had a great season for Sunderland this season, he has done okay for us so far, and in 5-6 years he could be a quality defender. Being a centre back in the premiership at the age of 21 is not easy, especially when you're playing for a struggling team. Anyway, it's not like we're awash with quality at the back.

Anyway, I'm surprised McGeady hasn't had a mention yet. For me he has to be the wo....just kidding. I wouldn't want to open that can of worms.

**Bluebeard** · 31/03/2008, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by jmurphyc

He's a player that Ferguson wanted to keep.

So he's like a less successful John O'Shea, you mean?

**jmurphyc** · 31/03/2008, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bluebeard

So he's like a less successful John O'Shea, you mean?

Well, JOS had talent. All I'm saying is that it shows that there's probably potential there. JOS would have been much better off leaving just as McShane did.

**Shedender81** · 31/03/2008, 6:54 PM

Originally Posted by Morbo

Having Bonner, Reid and McAteer on that list is a joke, Bonner is probably our 2nd best keeper of the last 25 years, Reid has been unlucky with injuries but even if you just judge him by the 10 games he has played then he is hardly in the worst 11, as for McAteer, he had some poor games but he also had some very good games and he came up big for Ireland in some crucial matches and we wouldn't have qualified for WC2002 without him.

For me Conolley is by far the worst Irish player to have achieved 40+ capps, he never once scored a goal against a good team in a game that mattered

Good Point... Have you looked at Aldo's record.... goal v Mexico other than that ?????????????

**Superhoops** · 31/03/2008, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Bluebeard

Good selection - when did Peter Murphy get his cap - I had completely forgotten it happening*

*EDIT: D'oh - that would have been during the Summer then, wouldn't it.....

Yep, played first half against Bolivia.

**Razors left peg** · 31/03/2008, 10:57 PM

Bonner has to be slightly better than Nick Colgan

**Qwerty** · 01/04/2008, 2:58 AM

Bonner was at his best before 1990 and went downhill thereafter. At his best he was excellent, second only to Given over the past 30 years. Alan Kelly also was not a bad keeper by any means. Colgan wins the goalie award, I don't think one cap wonders should count, I've tried to pick players who actually played a fair few games...

My worse of the worst

Colgan

Morris Daish Kernaghan Flemming

McGoldrick Douglas Carsley Stan

Coyne Slaven

**Superhoops** · 01/04/2008, 6:29 AM

Originally Posted by Qwerty

Bonner was at his best before 1990 and went downhill thereafter. At his best he was excellent, second only to Given over the past 30 years. Alan Kelly also was not a bad keeper by any means. Colgan wins the goalie award, I don't think one cap wonders should count, I've tried to pick players who actually played a fair few games...

My worse of the worst

Colgan

Morris Daish Kernaghan Flemming

McGoldrick Douglas Carsley Stan

Coyne Slaven

Looks good except for these two. Although I don't agree, I might understand a case for Carsley but to include Staunton is totally off the wall.

**jbyrne** · 01/04/2008, 7:46 AM

Originally Posted by Qwerty

Morris, Stan

i have to ask if you ever watched Ireland play in the early 90s?

**amaccann** · 01/04/2008, 8:00 AM

If Bonner was rubbish because of a couple of gaffs, then by that logic so is Given; does it really need reminding? His famous fook up against Coventry with Dion Dublin getting the easiest goal he';ll ever score?

**Morbo** · 01/04/2008, 8:39 AM

Originally Posted by Qwerty

Bonner was at his best before 1990 and went downhill thereafter. At his best he was excellent, second only to Given over the past 30 years. Alan Kelly also was not a bad keeper by any means. Colgan wins the goalie award, I don't think one cap wonders should count, I've tried to pick players who actually played a fair few games...

My worse of the worst

Colgan

Morris Daish Kernaghan Flemming

McGoldrick Douglas Carsley Stan

Coyne Slaven

Are you just kicking Stan while he is down or do you really believe he is one of the worst 11 since 1980?