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    South Africa 2010 The Countdown

    The World Cup, The Greatest show on earth.. The qualifiers are in full swing now and once the Summer is gone Ireland will start what will hopefully be the road to South Africa. I believe we can be there with the best in two years time.
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    A couple of shocks in the Asian qualifiers last night, Uzbekistan 3 - 0 Saudi Arabia, Bahrain 1 - 0 Japan, Qatar 2 - 0 Iraq. Could yet be a few new nations from Asia qualifying. For full results and tables check Fifaworldcup.com.
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    Good article here from ESPN Magazine:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3286434
    The glass isn't half full or half empty it's just too damn big!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedite View Post
    Good article here from ESPN Magazine:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3286434
    Very good. Thanks for that..

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    Goalkeepers: Shay Given [Newcastle United], Wayne Henderson [Preston North End], Paddy Kenny [Sheffield United], Darren Randolph [Charlton Athletic], Colin Doyle [Birmingham City], Joe Murphy [Scunthorpe United].

    Defenders: Stephen Kelly [Birmingham City], Richard Dunne [Manchester City], Kevin Kilbane [Wigan Athletic], John O'Shea [Manchester United], Joey O'Brien [Bolton Wanderers], Paul McShane [Sunderland], Kevin Foley [Wolverhampton Wanderers], Darren O'Dea [Celtic].

    Midfielders: Steven Reid [Blackburn Rovers], Liam Miller [Sunderland], Stephen Ireland [Manchester City], Damien Duff [Newcastle United], Aiden McGeady [Celtic], Andy Reid [Sunderland], Lee Carsley [Everton], Darron Gibson [Wolverhampton Wanderers], Stephen Hunt [Reading], Darren Potter [Wolverhampton Wanderers], Owen Garvan [Ipswich Town], Wes Hoolahan [Blackpool], Stephen McPhail [Cardiff City], Martin Rowlands [QPR], Glenn Whelan [Stoke City].

    Forwards: Stephen Elliott [Wolverhampton Wanderers], Robbie Keane [Tottenham Hotspur], Kevin Doyle [Reading], Clinton Morrison [Crystal Palace], Shane Long [Reading], Andy Keogh [Wolverhampton Wanderers], Anthony Stokes [Sunderland], Daryl Murphy [Sunderland], Sean Scannell [Crystal Palace], Roy O'Donovan [Sunderland], David Connolly [Sunderland].
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    Trapps first training squad.. Intresting to see who he rates. His first real squad will be an important of our Qualifiying chances...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa View Post
    With some luck the South Americans will have 5 teams qualify. The World Cup needs them. Too many European nations play in the tournament. For me it will be: Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Colombia and Uruguay.
    So they can get knocked out in the 2nd Round as usual ?

    There will be 6 or 7 European teams in the QFs as usual.

    Dont get me wrong, Im a big Argentina fan.

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    CONMEBOL has more than enough places. If spots were allocated on merit, UEFA would have 20+.
    A leading authority on League of Ireland football since 2003. You're probably wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa View Post
    I have to disagree. I think maybe one more automatic place could be spared. Allowing 5 Conmebol for certain and one other possible in the play off. Uefa has monopolised it for far too long. After all, South America is the joint most successful continent and has less places than Africa!! Not right.
    Agreed. Very good point.

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    Q) How many votes does UEFA have A) 53
    Q) How many votes does CAF have A) 53
    Q) How many votes does CONMEBOL have A) 10

    The number of places at a World Cup is invariably linked to the number of coutries in each region and therefore the number of votes & the amount of power they can wield when it comes to FIFA election times.
    Africa is a very powerfull force in world football these days, it is why the World Cup is in SA and their representation is likely to increase in the forthcoming World Cups

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa View Post
    I understand all that but it is not right. South America and the World Cup are linked since the tournament began. Where were the Cameroons, Togos and Senegals in 1930???
    They weren't invited to compete, couldn't afford to, hadn't attained independence and probably wouldn't have been welcome anyway. But what the hell has 1930 got to with anything?
    There's already too many rubbish European teams qualifying as it is.
    Which rubbish European teams are these? I can think of maybe three uncompetitive European qualifiers in recent memory (Greece 94, who qualified on a technicality, Poland 02 and S&M 06.) At every single tournament since 1994, at least one marginal European qualifier has made it to the semis. Every single one. Sweden, Bulgaria, Croatia, Turkey, Portugal. By contrast, no-one outside the big two in South America has done anything of note at the World Cup in that period. Argentina couldn't even get past "rubbish" Sweden in the first round in 2002.

    I don't mind places being allocated to aid the development of the game, but there's no way Europe deserves fewer than 15. If we were allocating on merit, it would be closer to 25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa View Post
    Maybe their record isn't the best but they really add color and flair, aswell as a completly different style of football to what we see week in week out. I mean who would you rather watch, Colombia Germany or Austria Germany??? I know my answer.
    Dont get me wrong Ruben, I am a big Argentina fan.
    Im just stating the record at the last 4 or 5 WCs when 6 or 7 European teams have made up the QFs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa View Post
    Didn't Platini miss this peno ?

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    This Fella is my favorite memory of WC '86
    used to collect little models of him Kinder Eggs I think it was at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa View Post
    I understand all that but it is not right. South America and the World Cup are linked since the tournament began. Where were the Cameroons, Togos and Senegals in 1930??? I think it should break down like this:
    South America 5 places plus one play-off. (possible 6)
    Africa 5 places.
    Asia 4 places no play-off.
    Oceania 1 place.
    Concacaf 3 places and (play-off with South America.)
    Europe 13 places.
    There's already too many rubbish European teams qualifying as it is.

    Now as a result of me agreeing completely to Sheridan I'm off for a long cold shower. Shudder.
    Ruben,
    I like your posts regarding South American footballers, but I'm afraid you're talking pure gash here my friend. You given history, fans and personal preference as reasons, hell if we're referring to fans we should be there everytime.
    The amount of qualifiers should be related to the amount of nations in each region. Which would leave South american federation lagging behind.
    Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!

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    Should there be a separate Qualifier thread.

    The African Round 1 groups start May 21/ June 01

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/prelimi...hes/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by stojkovic View Post
    Didn't Platini miss this peno ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa View Post
    Yup. Versus Brazil in what Pele called the greatest football game he ever watched. France won on pens after a 1all game that was pure football. Careca and Platini scored. End to end with the beautiful game never better. If you ever get a chance to see it do. Pure class.
    It was his birthday aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce View Post
    Should there be a separate Qualifier thread.

    The African Round 1 groups start May 21/ June 01

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/prelimi...hes/index.html

    Up the Med.!
    Not at all. All talk about the World Cup is welcome here.

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    South America

    Uruguay 6-0 Peru
    Bolivia 4-2 Paraguay
    Ecuador 0-0 Colombia
    Brazil 0-0 Argentina


    Thursday 19 June
    Venezuela-Chile

    Bottom side Bolivia beating top Paraguay was a big shock. Glad I didn't stay up for Brazil v argentina which was on at 1.30pm our time.


    Top seven
    1. Paraguay, 13 pts (GD +8)
    2. Argentina, 11 (+6)
    3. Colombia, 10 (+2)
    4. Brazil, 9 (+4)
    5. Uruguay, 8 (+9)
    6. Venezuela, 7 (+0)
    7. Chile, 7 (-1)

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    Following the second leg of the second round of matches this past weekend, another 12 teams were knocked out in Concacaf. These are the 3 groups for the 3rd round:

    Group A: Cuba, Guatemala, Trinidad and Tobago, USA
    Group B: Canada, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico
    Group C: Costa Rica, Haiti, El Salvador, Suriname

    The top two teams from each group move on to the Final Round.

    Match days are:
    20 August 2008
    6 September 2008
    10 September 2008
    11 October 2008
    15 October 2008
    19 November 2008

    Group B is a tough group. Erikson & Mexico better be careful.
    "Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa View Post
    Jeez, the Costa Ricans got lucky again...
    My tips for qualification:
    Group A: T&T and Usa
    Group B: Mexico and Canada (Yes Canada)
    Group C: Costa Rica and El Salvador
    I could see T&T getting knocked off. They are in a bit of a disarray right now.

    Group B is a tough one. Any of the 4 teams could make it to the next round. Honduras have some good players in Suazo and Guevara while Jamaica have improved a lot in the last year or so. I would love to see Canada make the Hex but I have a feeling they might not make it again. They are getting better and if they were in either of the other two groups they would do it but this is a tough group for them. Would love to see Mexico knocked out though
    "Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
    "Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.

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