Paul Doolin

**GavinZac** · 28/03/2008, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Coltron

So is the real reason they haven't yet come back a reflection on City or Drogheda United?

No, because it was a reflection on the league. Thats what people are buying into; if they were told to choose a team in the ELOI they would pick Cork City, but its the league itself that they are outsiders to.

Unfortunately, defensive teams do well in this league, making for less than attractive football at times. At this standard, it is easier to defend than to attack, and players who do stand out in attack are more likely to be signed up to abroad than defenders - for instance, I would rate Dan Murray and Joe Gamble as highly as Roy O'Donovan and Kevin Doyle (ok - maybe Shane Long) but they aren't signed up because they don't go on 10-in-10 scoring runs. That leaves you with higher quality defenders.

Even our famously free flowing 2005 team won the league not on the attacking prowess of Doyle, O'Donovan, O'Flynn and O'Callaghan but on the unbeatable back 5 and Joe Gamble's incessant harrying.

**Coltron** · 28/03/2008, 11:16 AM

Gavin I don't agree that defensive teams do better than attacking minded teams. The majority if not all teams who win the league have a strong defence but they are at least as good going forward.

I take your point on players who get attention but your sample isn't big enough. For example you say Kevin Doyle and Roy O Donavan but there was also two defenders who left City recently too, Alan Bennett and Danny Murphy. On balance what you say is probably true but this is something that is fooball wide and no only common to the eL. Awards usually go to attack ortientated players, Cannavaro and Keane being the exceptions to this rule.

**Jaime** · 28/03/2008, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by derm

My brother-in-law and his two sons have never returned to the Cross since that match...

Sorry but that is the funniest thing I have read in ages

**ndrog** · 28/03/2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Jaime

Sorry but that is the funniest thing I have read in ages

same as that .They didnt return because the quality of the game that day wasnt to there liking .poor pets .Better off supporting man u , which they probably do anyway .

**Dodge** · 28/03/2008, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jaime

When I say physical I don't necessarily mean dirty.

Fair enough. Don't forget we had martin Russell though, the windiest footballer of all time

Agree with your above comment too

Most times I've seen Drogheda play they've been horrible to watch. Don't really care what terms people wish to use to describe their tactics.

**Poor Student** · 28/03/2008, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Yes he did. He relegated us in 2003, for the only time in our last 12 premier division seasons. We lost our first 7 games that year and got 1 point from our first 9 games. After 20 games, when he left for Drogheda, we had 12. At the end of the season, we had 34. The results under Pete Mahon would have had us comfortably in the top half so the early season performances can't be blamed on poor players.

Did he not bring Drogheda close to relegation as well that season? Think they only finished one above the playoffs and three above bottom with similar goal difference.

**John83** · 28/03/2008, 1:01 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

Did he not bring Drogheda close to relegation as well that season? Think they only finished one above the playoffs and three above bottom with similar goal difference.

He had a terrible start there, 1 win in 14 games or something. They didn't escape relegation by much.

**Coltron** · 28/03/2008, 5:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Most times I've seen Drogheda play they've been horrible to watch.

I'd say it's tough watching your team take a beating alright.

**A face** · 28/03/2008, 8:45 PM

Originally Posted by Coltron

I'd say it's tough watching your team take a beating alright.

Miss the complete point anyway why dont ya

**p�l-dcfc** · 28/03/2008, 8:50 PM

Originally Posted by Coltron

I'd say it's tough watching your team take a beating alright.

Must be

**pete** · 28/03/2008, 9:04 PM

MNS interview with Doolin On Monday will be predictable. Pressure must be creeping up on him now.

**saint morrissey** · 28/03/2008, 9:12 PM

sure one of the goals was an o.g. and the other was a penalty so thats basically a draw in doo-land if he adopts same attitude he did after drogs were beaten by rovers. when you factor in the sending off he'll probably take a moral victory out of the evening.

**A face** · 28/03/2008, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by pete

MNS interview with Doolin On Monday will be predictable. Pressure must be creeping up on him now.

Yeah, totally defensive and guilty

I think i'll keep the mute button handy cos it'll be the same auld crap from him i think.

**Cosmo** · 28/03/2008, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by A face

Yeah, totally defensive and guilty

I think i'll keep the mute button handy cos it'll be the same auld crap from him i think.

Nice to hear he is in your head!!!!!!!

His interviews are obviously working! Cant wait for the excuses for tonights match just to wind you l@ngers up if his words mean so much to you - I love it!!!!

**p�l-dcfc** · 28/03/2008, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

His interviews are obviously working!

Having a great effect on the team alright.

**Cosmo** · 29/03/2008, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Having a great effect on the team alright.

But having a great effect an winding up alot of idiots on here!

**p�l-dcfc** · 29/03/2008, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

But having a great effect an winding up alot of idiots on here!

Good to see where his priorities lie. What a manager. A good defence of the league title or winding up some Corkies on foot.ie? Winding up the Corkies an obvious winner

**GavinZac** · 29/03/2008, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Good to see where his priorities lie. What a manager. A good defence of the league title or winding up some Corkies on foot.ie? Winding up the Corkies an obvious winner

The hilarity of the situation of course being that while Doolin might get a few token boos next time he's at the cross, Drogheda reacted to their first ever league win by singing songs about a player that used to play for Cork City and hanging around outside the Cork City dressing rooms for 15 minutes like a bunch of irony-coated groupies. Oh they're experts on "in the head" alright!

**A face** · 29/03/2008, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

The hilarity of the situation of course being that while Doolin might get a few token boos next time he's at the cross, Drogheda reacted to their first ever league win by singing songs about a player that used to play for Cork City and hanging around outside the Cork City dressing rooms for 15 minutes like a bunch of irony-coated groupies. Oh they're experts on "in the head" alright!

Ha ha

And its funny cos every single bit of it is true, or is that scary

Well right now its 'split my sides laughing' .... its the truth

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Good to see where his priorities lie. What a manager. A good defence of the league title or winding up some Corkies on foot.ie? Winding up the Corkies an obvious winner

That about sums it up alright, but yeah Doolin is in our heads ... ffs, its embarrassing at this stage.

**John83** · 29/03/2008, 3:29 PM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Good to see where his priorities lie. What a manager. A good defence of the league title or winding up some Corkies on foot.ie? Winding up the Corkies an obvious winner

Jaysus, if you can't wind up Corkonians in the process of doing just about anything, you should apply to the government for a disability grant.