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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    So why did someone say the Couincil owned Tolka then ?

    If you own the lease - it's yours. The Council are just the Freeholders.
    The council own the land is what I meant. We sold our lease on it to Ossie Kilkenny

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    the Mons own kinspan century park lock stock plus two other pitches and are hoping to install full size artifical pitch this year also
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeixlipRed View Post
    The council own the land is what I meant. We sold our lease on it to Ossie Kilkenny
    Hang on - we're going round in contradictory circles here now.

    So now you're saying Shels own neither the land nor the lease...?!?

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    They sold the lease but haven't received full consideration for it yet.

    The "millions" they have over have to buy them a new ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Hang on - we're going round in contradictory circles here now.

    So now you're saying Shels own neither the land nor the lease...?!?
    Sold = contract agreed. Why would we still be in Tolka if we had no claim to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeixlipRed View Post
    Sold = contract agreed. Why would we still be in Tolka if we had no claim to it?
    For about an endless number of contractural agreements you could have put in place : e.g. use of rent free, use of until siomething else ready ect etc etc, ad-infinitum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buller View Post
    South Dublin County Council, but it turns out better than us actually owning it. Its the best possible scenario. The ground can never be sold as we dont own it. We dont pay rent. The upkeep of the ground is payed for by the council. The only "disadvantage" is that we only get 50% of the advertising revenue. It will be a dream come true after all these years...
    not being funny here but if the above is true then that crowd in Thomas Davis appear to have had at least the basis for the case as Rovers are just getting free use of a publicly funded facility and will be making a profit into the bargain themselves! Great victory for Rovers if they are the circumstances. Will any other teams have use of the stadium or will it be exclusively Rovers?

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    Other teams can use it, including GAA teams willing to play on the 'wrong shape' pitch - e.g. junior teams that can use that size pitch.

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    Yeah the argument was about the size of the pitch rather than who's allowed to play there. TD wanted the entire thing started over with a GAA-sized pitch, which would have delayed the project massively (though they proved they werent concerned with that, didnt they) and reduced the room available for other facilities in the area.
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    The Casey family own Oriel Park. There is an agreement to lease it to Dundalk FC for as long as they play football at the venue.

    This tread has definitely been done not too long ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by holidaysong View Post
    The Casey family own Oriel Park. There is an agreement to lease it to Dundalk FC for as long as they play football at the venue.

    This tread has definitely been done not too long ago!
    That's a unique situation Holidaysong. Do DFC pay rent?
    Who are the Casey family? Could the pull the plug if they wanted to?

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    going by these post not to many clubs own grounds?
    i still think waterford united have the best deal in a rent free ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galwayhoop View Post
    not being funny here but if the above is true then that crowd in Thomas Davis appear to have had at least the basis for the case as Rovers are just getting free use of a publicly funded facility and will be making a profit into the bargain themselves! Great victory for Rovers if they are the circumstances. Will any other teams have use of the stadium or will it be exclusively Rovers?
    Read into the subject a bit more before posting.

    You'll find their plans would have effectively destroyed the ground as a football venue. I'm not even going to say more because I'm simply sick of the subject! The bottom line is they didnt/dont want us in Tallaght, and the youth of Tallaght to be "restricted to a strict diet of association football".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buller View Post
    Read into the subject a bit more before posting.

    You'll find their plans would have effectively destroyed the ground as a football venue. I'm not even going to say more because I'm simply sick of the subject! The bottom line is they didnt/dont want us in Tallaght, and the youth of Tallaght to be "restricted to a strict diet of association football".
    im sure your sick to death of the subject however it must be nice to sit with a pint and savour the victory every now and again.. say for the next twenty years ,im not a rovers supporter but i do
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddyfield View Post
    That's a unique situation Holidaysong. Do DFC pay rent?
    Who are the Casey family? Could the pull the plug if they wanted to?
    Er, its almost identical to the one I described for Turner's Cross earlier in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buller View Post
    Read into the subject a bit more before posting.

    You'll find their plans would have effectively destroyed the ground as a football venue. I'm not even going to say more because I'm simply sick of the subject! The bottom line is they didnt/dont want us in Tallaght, and the youth of Tallaght to be "restricted to a strict diet of association football".
    I'm not doubting that you have much more of an understanding of the situation than i do but effectively Rovers are being given free use of a publicly funded stadium from which they will make money.

    Apparently Thomas Davis had ulterior motives but on the grounds that the facility was being funded by the Local Authority using public funds there is at least the basis of a legal arguement.

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