New nasty side to Derry?

[ndrog]

One thing I noted last night was the completely different tone than usual on the pitch between Cork and Derry. Normally the two teams tend to just go about the game of football but there seemed to be more bite in this one; for instance Lordan had to go off for a few minutes to get stitches, and Doherty squared up to our strikers a few times. When Derry grabbed their goal their right back (McCallion?) was only concerned with making gestures to the City fans and Doherty joined him in doing so at the final whistle. Perhaps mindful of the fact he had been booked for similar (less agressive) behaviour, O'Callaghan tried to get Doherty to stop that and ended up getting a slap for his troubles.

Not the worst, nothing like the Shelbourne of yore, but definitely a change. Who knows, perhaps its an element that has been missing for Derry recently and could contribute to more success. Some of the Derry fans I spoke to after the game called this "heart" rather than aggression.

unbeliveable ! you have a hard neck .Boy george was giving the finger and the wnker sign to drogs fans last tues in turners cross .I also remember him runnig straight to us in utd pk after scoring , kissing the crest etc . But thats football , if you give it you gotta take it .And we all know george likes to take it dont we .

[sullanefc]

unbeliveable ! you have a hard neck .Boy george was giving the finger and the wnker sign to drogs fans last tues in turners cross .I also remember him runnig straight to us in utd pk after scoring , kissing the crest etc . But thats football , if you give it you gotta take it .And we all know george likes to take it dont we .

Well considering that the Drogheda fans concentrated on slagging George off for 90 mins rather than support their team, I'm not surprised he gave ye the finger. But I don't condone it and he should probably have gotten a booking.

Also, the Derry keeper was a disgrace at the final whistle Friday night. Incited the crowd quite deliberately. Should also have been booked, but I don't think the ref saw it.

[CameramanConka]

Well considering that the Drogheda fans concentrated on slagging George off for 90 mins rather than support their team, I'm not surprised he gave ye the finger. But I don't condone it and he should probably have gotten a booking.

Also, the Derry keeper was a disgrace at the final whistle Friday night. Incited the crowd quite deliberately. Should also have been booked, but I don't think the ref saw it.

Mother of fck. I bet those lovely people in the shed never said a bad word about anybody the whole night.

well played chaps. Tally ho! What!

[sullanefc]

Mother of fck. I bet those lovely people in the shed never said a bad word about anybody the whole night.

well played chaps. Tally ho! What!

Banter is one thing. Being obsessed with a player on the other team is another.

[Pablo Escobar]

very hypacritical of the man making plenty of gestures towards drogheda fans last tuesday.

In fairness, his heart was in the right place with this one. He obviously remembers the last time a certain six toe goalkeeper did that. That was very scary for all involved.

[A face]

Banter is one thing. Being obsessed with a player on the other team is another.

It goes beyond obsession with some people though. Its actually kinda scary if you ask me.

[Dodge]

It goes beyond obsession with some people though. Its actually kinda scary if you ask me.

Only because certain players in the league take every opportunity to goad opposition fans (GOC, Fabio, Jason Byrne being probably the 3 worst)

People who complain about the opposition celebrating (for whatever reason) are pathetic

[GavinZac]

Only because certain players in the league take every opportunity to goad opposition fans (GOC, Fabio, Jason Byrne being probably the 3 worst)

People who complain about the opposition celebrating (for whatever reason) are pathetic

Have you not just contradicted yourself?

[A face]

Have you not just contradicted yourself?

I think he has

[GavinZac]

To clarify, I'm not complaining about the players that were just celebrating, and ran over to their fans in the end they scored. Granted, it looked a bit silly that they were acting as if they'd won the league when they'd stolen a point, but its understandable, its great to get those sort of results away, I'm sure I've done it. But what I did refer in terms of the "celebrating" to was the gestures from 2 players, the fighting after the final whistle and the right back acting the hard man in the warm down. The City fans spent 90 minutes supporting their team and the worst they gave to derry was a few ironic cheers when they (frequently) sliced the ball out of play. Why resort to the type of goading that Dan Connor, Gary Hamilton and John McDonnell (and as I'm sure someone will point out, Billy Woods!) made their reputation in Cork with?

[Dodge]

Have you not just contradicted yourself?

Not at all. Goading = sticking fingers up, making gestures etc etc

[Cosmo]

People who complain about the opposition celebrating (for whatever reason) are pathetic

100% spot on - cork supporters are the worst in the league for that -dont know if theyre footaball supporters or ballet supporters. biggest shower of hypocritical whingers about

Though I wouldnt have put fabio in the top 3 dodge - fabios alright

[fanatic]

so depending on where you are on the pitch decides whether or not your allowed to celebrate a goal for you team ?

come on, get over it

[Cosmo]

so depending on where you are on the pitch decides whether or not your allowed to celebrate a goal for you team ?

come on, get over it

No - its whether or not you play for cork for the cry babies

[thischarmingman]

100% spot on - cork supporters are the worst in the league for that -dont know if theyre footaball supporters or ballet supporters.

Are ballet supporters known for their moaning?

"Yooouuur not daaaaanciiing aaaanymore...."

[GavinZac]

so depending on where you are on the pitch decides whether or not your allowed to celebrate a goal for you team ?

come on, get over it

ugh. Why don't people read the entire thread?

Look, George O'Callaghan was booked fagainst rovers for celebrating a goal at the end he scored it, so apparently, no, you're not.

But thats not what I was talking about, I was talking about the kind of goading/gestures Dodge was describing, which is what was going on the other night. Predictably, Dodge will not take a Cork person's word that this is what happened, for whatever reason.

[dcfcsteve]

To clarify, I'm not complaining about the players that were just celebrating, and ran over to their fans in the end they scored. Granted, it looked a bit silly that they were acting as if they'd won the league when they'd stolen a point, but its understandable, its great to get those sort of results away, I'm sure I've done it. But what I did refer in terms of the "celebrating" to was the gestures from 2 players, the fighting after the final whistle and the right back acting the hard man in the warm down. The City fans spent 90 minutes supporting their team and the worst they gave to derry was a few ironic cheers when they (frequently) sliced the ball out of play. Why resort to the type of goading that Dan Connor, Gary Hamilton and John McDonnell (and as I'm sure someone will point out, Billy Woods!) made their reputation in Cork with?

Move on GZ, move on....

[twowheelsonly]

Rather than celebrate his team scoring in any sort of normal manner McCallion choose to do so by giving 2 fingers to the shed end. This was without any sort of intimidation/abuse/slagging/winding up of him or any Derry players all night. Certainly nothing of any nature that could be in any manner considered inflamatory.
Doherty at the final whistle turned to the crowd at that end as well and started roaring and gesturing at the crowd in a highly aggressive manner. His behaviour was an absolute disgrace and if spotted by the ref, or any ref in any league in the world, would have been a guaranteed yellow card.
Cork/Derry games have almost always been tough but fair and enjoyable contests with a grudging respect and admiration for each other both on and off the pitch. I think Mr Dohertys' behaviour, in particular, might just have changed that.
BTW, Anybody on here who had witnessed this would have reacted in the exact same way. He stepped waaaayyy over the line.

On the same subject, well known 'flair players' or 'noticable players' such as GOC always get abuse away from home (exception Paddy McCourt for some reason???). While GOC does react in certain ways I've never seen him do it in an aggressive manner. Each has their own way of answering back, from keepers giving a discreet flash of their arse to the little smile, kissing the crest or hand up to the ear if they score. It's part of football and always will be.

[sfc red]

exception Paddy McCourt for some reason

It's called respect.

[Pablo Escobar]

I think anybody who defends what happened is an idiot. I saw it, and while it doesn't really bother me personally, I saw it as a very dangerous act. As I touched on above, Dan Connor being taken out an unknown entrance at the cross for doing the same is a prime example. There's been plenty of players celebrating infront of the Shed (GOC style) and I think people in general don't have a problem with that, e.g. Ollie Cahill. They may get abuse at the time, but Ollie got some playful banter and some applause last week. This was different though and cannot be defended.
BTW I wouldn't back-up one of my players if they reacted that way in another ground, I expect it from Drogs, but a Pats fan?