Why is he starting?
Mulcahy,
Darren Murphy,
Sullivan,
even Kelly and Colin T.
Does anyone think he's up to the required standard?
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I thought he did well at Rovers & also fairly solid against Drogs. He had a poor game tonight though, did not look on the pace. Mulcahy was dropped after some terrible mistakes at Rovers. Kelly was terrible last season.
What is Matthews doing having Mulcahy, Ryan & Sullivan on the bench? Is Eddie O'Sullivan his mentor? Ryan offers nothing the other two don't cover already.
I wasn't at Tolka so didn't see Mulcahys errors either but thought Lordan was a burden on the team against Drogs.
Going on little with Mulcahy but I think he's looked reliable regardless of distribution etc. He's an experienced campaigner.
Likewise with Sullivan. I think he's played centre-back. He looks a fine player.
But If Mathews is thinking that he wants to give a younger(ish) head a decent chance, fair enough but Darren Murphy must be demented.
I wouldn't fault Cillian for effort at all but would you start him?
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City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
Mulcahey (as much as I love him) isn't a centre half. He's just not quick enough. His engine is magnificent, and in midfield his pace isn't shown up
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Can't fault him for effort but as I've aready said in other forums today, he's not up to it at this level.
Give Darren Murphy a chance or Sullivan or Mulcahy
He's been told to play centre back and not make mistakes. He's playing centre back, and not making mistakes. Granted, he's lumping the ball away at every given opportunity but then so are 2 or 3 other players including Dan Murphy.
Sullivan isn't a centre back. Colin T can't be playing such a pivotal role week-in, week-out, and it would be pretty short-term blinkered to do so.
It must be pretty obvious at this point that Darren Murphy isn't a solution given that neither Mathews nor Richardson have had any time for him. The truth of the matter is that he player 3 or 4 games 10 months ago and ran around like a man demented - which was all very impressive at the time, because effort is exactly what our team lacked at that time.
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Damien O'Rourke when fit and Darren Murphy could sort out this position. Lordan to be honest is better on the wing anyway. But if you found fault with Lordan and dont mention others then you are clearly singling him out. He was not anywhere near the worst player on the pitch against Derry, and has done reasonably well in the other games. I think he is being made a scapegoat at this stage.
Was Lordan to blame because the whole team went to sleep 20 mins from the end v Derry .... i'll tell you the answer .... NO
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If Matthews didn't resort to defensive tacticsOriginally Posted by A face
Why he didn't push on to score another goal i dont know. Put it beyond doubt. Its not like there weren't chance, poor substitution it has to be said.If Matthews didn't resort to defensive tactics
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Lordan has played centre back in the last 3 games & only 2 goals conceded so he can't be that bad. Our problem as a team is not in defence. As mentioned above Danny Murphys distribution was hopeless on Friday (lost count of the sliced hoofs) but no threads on him.If Matthews didn't resort to defensive tactics
Friday was the first time City have lead (for more than 2 minutes) in a league game & negative tactics followed. Hopefully Matthews has realised we don't have the players to contain teams for half a game & the fans don't want it either.
I agree with pretty much all of that. People are very quick to dismiss Lordan even though he has not yet had a particularly poor game at centre half. I think once he finds his rhythm, he and Murray will have a fantastic partnership.
On the Darren Murphy issue. He had a decent run in a few games in June. Since then he has not figured for either Rico or Mathews. Are both managers wrong? Sure he looks a decnet player, but i will take a pro managers view on him a little better than I do an ordinary fan.
Mathews is a long ball manager. Thats why he plays such long balls IMO.Granted, he's lumping the ball away at every given opportunity
I think, or rather, I hope they are both on a learning curve. Mathews has to realise City simply cannot sit back - any time we do, we fail, we concede. Lordan is looking to cement a place in the team, which is understandable since he's been always highly rated since 2004 but has never gotten a long stint in the team. He's playing pinball football in that anything that comes near him, he is repelling it up the field or out of play; that should look very familiar to anyone who saw Dan Murray in his earlier years. Murray got his fair share of criticism too but look at him now, he's far more confident in his ability to take it down and pass it off rather than just heading it out or volleying it out. There is the hope - that once he's got his place and feels confident, he'll stop.
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Hoggy had probably the worst game I've seen him play (which wasn't too disastrous). As regards Lordan being the worst player on the pitch, he's lucky Delaney and Hutton were playing because it's pretty certain our second centre-back (whoever they may be at the mo) is Citys weakest link.
Methinks we need a Longford fan to clear up this Sullivan CB question.
Did he not play there in pre-season?
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
no, he played at left back up in cabra anyway
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"Ex Bardus , Vicis"
Lads sorry if it's a bit off topic but, what happened to Cathal Lordan? Did he retire or what?
spoke to him before christmas, he said he was going to drop out of football because he didnt want to go part time. when mathews came in, he offered lally and cathal lordan trials for another full time contract. lally is gone to cobh now, dunno about lordan
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I'm almost certain he's never played CB. Started off as a striker as a schoolboy, then became a right winger, then eventually RB at UCD.
Slightly off topic, but I think Cork would be better playing Sully right wing, moving Georgie upfront and dropping O'Flynn/Mooney. Georgie provides very little from the right.
Lordan suffers the same fate as all utility players in that he doesn't have a definite position. Is he a full back, a wide man or a centre half? If he gets a run of games at centre half he might just make the position his own. At the moment he's no worse than the other candidates and is probably better defensively than most of them.
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Cathal Lordan played for City in the recent Futsal tournament. I heard he was one of the better City players.
Official site refers to him as "Former Cork City player" in this article today http://www.corkcityfc.ie/main.php?ac...headlineID=179
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