LOL...Originally Posted by bennocelt
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I told ye boyos.. the czechs were evens not to qualify from their group..i said it was a CERT.. that will get me a nice holiday away.. they always faulter - not strong enough mentally..
i will let ye know when theres more free money available!!!
romania tomorrow at 11/10 is oustanding value..
get on it lads
Turkey - Croatia will be one to watch. Originally I would have picked the Croats to win. However, now I can see the Turks going through. In every tournament there are around two teams who develop with the tournament. I think Turkey are doing this and will progress because of this.
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I personally think Croatia will win but it will be a very interesting match. One factor which obviously favours Croatia is the sending off of Volkan in the last minute. He's a pretty decent goalkeeper and even though they have experienced back up in Rustu, is he past it by this stage? This could be a decisive factor in the outcome.
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I just heard on the radio that if Italy get a score draw with France and Romania lose, then Italy go through. I don't think thats right. Is the following not correct;
Romania win, they go through
Romania draw, France or Italy win - then France/Italy go through
Romania draw, France/Italy draw - Romania go through
Romania lose, France or Italy win - France/Italy go through
Romania lose by less than three, France/Italy draw - Romania go through
Romania lose by three or more, France/Italy draw - Italy go through on goals scored
Last edited by lionelhutz; 17/06/2008 at 1:39 PM.
From BBC site:
If France and Italy share a score draw (1-1, 2-2, 3-3 etc), Italy will go through if Romania lose (by any score). In this scenario, Italy, Romania and France will be level on two points each but Italy would have scored more goals in games between the 3 teams.
Here's a link for all the possible scenarios.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ly/7457863.stm
How am I a lunatic for copying and pasting something?
And maybe you should read the whole post...
Thanks for that DDD. Here's hoping for a 0-0 in the French game. I've a feeling Holland will beat Romania even with their second string and Italy and France will draw 1-1 meaning Italy scrape through
jmurphyc: Rustu, as you say, has the experience. And being a goalkeeper age doesn't diminish ability at the same steep rate that it does to an outfield player so there is reason for faith. Plus, it's one game. He has enough in him, I think, to at least put in a credible 90 minutes. You can also be sure that he will be ready to take this opportunity with (ahem)both hands.
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Rustu has been past it for three years. His reflexes have gone.
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We've just had confirmation that Domenech is an idiot.
France go down to ten man in a match they have to win. So he takes off his most creative player for Jean-Alain Boumsong.
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He blew it by not having Flamini and Mexes in the squad. Abidal looked up the loire without a paddle in the center of defence, Mexes could have done a job there. And anyone with two working legs (maybe even Domenech himself) would have been better then Makalele who looks about as mobile as the Exxon Valdez.
Even if he had taken along young players (Mexes, Flamini, Clichy, Ben Afra) or played the fringe players (Gomis, Diarra) at least he could have built something for WC2010, as it is the French will be going into the qualifiers blind, not knowing who to play in the starting eleven.
Rustu was kept out of the Besiktas team by Hakan Arikan, who has the following record in the Champions League this season
Marseille Away let in 2
Porto Home let in 1
Liverpool Home let in 1
Liverpool Away let in 8 (yes that's eight)
He was then dropped
Rustu played in one CL game
Marseille Home let in 1
Porto Away let in 2
I think Rustu is ok for one game, Volkan is better (a very good keeper) but the Turks have no options, apart from the Galatasaray keeper Orkun Usjak, Trabzonspor (the best non Istanbul team) have a Brazilian keeper "Jefferson".
By the way I think the Dutch have dropped a clanger here. I know it would have been unpopular, but had they lost today and let the Romanians through they would be looking at an easier path to the final. I think the Italians might well take care of them in the semis now.
I don't think the Italians will beat Spain in the QFs. Pirlo and Gattuso out is a big blow and Toni is really off-form. I can see Aquilani and Del Piero coming in but I don't think they'll do enough.
Whereas Spain will have their strong midfield intact and they have a striker who can't stop scoring in Villa.
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I think it will be Perotta, De Rossi and Aquilani. Is Puyol out for the Spanish ? I think they are suspect and I would like to see what they could do if they went behind. To be honest they don't have that much form coming into the game the Russia match aside they've edged wins vs Peru, the USA and Sweden and Italy (1-0 3 months ago) but these have all been at home bar Sweden - I think this will be like the USA 94 match and the Italians will edge it (but no need for the Tassotti Enrique incident).
Last edited by Closed Account 2; 17/06/2008 at 11:33 PM.
I think Germany will make the final but Italy won't, with Pirlo and Gattuso out it swings it in Spains favour for me and also the fact that Toni is putrid muck
Lets hope so, coz I've got a tenner on that at 18/1.
I had Pirlo to score first and Italy to win 2-1 @ 75-1. Useless French tossers.
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Does Henry just spend all his time moaning? Captain material? The French needed somebody to grab the game and his team mates by the scruff of the neck and drag them through (kicking and screaming if necessary).
It says a lot about your defence when Boumsong actually improves it. Domenech has to go. When you leave out Mexes, Flaimini, Clichy and Sagna at home you know something must be wrong.
Yeah, the French were pretty poor. I knew it before the tournament, but it just confirms that Domenech is out of his depth. I rate Abidal very highly but he was extremely poor against the Romanians and should never have been played in the centre for the Italy game. Domenech's squad selection really damaged their hopes as did the realisation that Thuram's legs had gone (which came too late).
I'm delighted though, as I put money on Italy to win the tournament at 18-1 before the game. Now their odds have dropped to 7-2 in some places so I can ensure I get my money back by laying on them!
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