First Division

**DmanDmythDledge** · 28/04/2008, 9:38 PM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

There is not a chance of them finishing as high as fourth in my opinion.

I don't think so either but describing them as completely useless is very harsh them I feel.

**Dunny** · 28/04/2008, 9:41 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

I don't think so either but describing them as completely useless is very harsh them I feel.

It is very harsh indeed. Can see them finishing fourth-sixth depending on Fingal and Longford.

**jebus** · 28/04/2008, 10:25 PM

Both Wexford and Monaghan are useless football teams, end.of.story

**gael353** · 28/04/2008, 10:32 PM

If it was based on support/attendences, there would be two if not three first division clubs heading to A league at seasons end. I cant see one club in particular being there next season. Sad to say but thats how i feel.

**Lim till i die** · 29/04/2008, 9:47 AM

Originally Posted by Battery Rover

On top of all that we are not allowed sign a keeper until July and have a 41 year old goal keeping coach between the sticks for the past 4 matches.

We had our goalkeeping coach in goals against you after Dave Ryan was sent off but were allowed to sign Jimmy Fyffe for the Dundalk game

**Lim till i die** · 29/04/2008, 9:54 AM

Originally Posted by oldyouth

I don't follow your point Lim. Do you think your team is good or the worst in years??

When fully fit we have a smattering of players that would walk on to any team in the division and will give anyone a game on their day.

Unfortunately this is mixed in with some absolute dross. At least three to four of our average starting eleven are nowhere near good enough.

Hence the worst team in years. The teams Noel O'Connor had in his second spell here in particular were positively dripping with talent by comparison.

Don't think Monaghan should be in that category- win their game in hand against Kildare, which they would be expected to, and they would be in fourth place.

As for Wexford, if they won the league you'd probably still claim they're useless.

I of course bow to your superior knowledge of the first division

I don't think so either but describing them as completely useless is very harsh them I feel.

It maybe was a bit harsh depending on what you think of First Division football.

Monaghan will struggle for goals big time and don't have any obvious quality.

I will be amazed (not the mention raging) if the likes of them finish above Limerick.

I genuinely think the three blocks I mentioned is how the league will pan out (In no particular order)

EDIT: This looks like I'm singling out Mon. I'm genuinely not, I think they are probably a slightly better side than Wexford and Kildare. I do think they will be slugging it out at that level though. But in fairness I couldn't see them finishing last for example.

Also feel I should point out that if Paddy never gets back to fitness and two or three of our boys leave in July and we don't stregthen the squad we're more than capable of dropping down into a relegation scrap.

**Battery Rover** · 29/04/2008, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

We had our goalkeeping coach in goals against you after Dave Ryan was sent off but were allowed to sign Jimmy Fyffe for the Dundalk game

For some reason we cannot do that. As I said I don't know the actual ruling

**Magicme** · 29/04/2008, 10:47 AM

We were in a similar predicament and were allowed. Wonder why you cant? Tis a strange ould world.

**Battery Rover** · 29/04/2008, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Magicme

We were in a similar predicament and were allowed. Wonder why you cant? Tis a strange ould world.

We have Ciaran Kelly (professional), Anthony Jinks (professional and GK coach) and Lee Gaffey (amateur) good keeper but not enough experience yet. he needs a season in the under 20s. There might be a reason in that.

**Magicme** · 29/04/2008, 10:55 AM

Aw yeah, we only had the 2 keepers.

**Splurge** · 29/04/2008, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

I will be amazed (not the mention raging) if the likes of them finish above Limerick.

I genuinely think the three blocks I mentioned is how the league will pan out (In no particular order)

It's my first season watcing Div 1 football having just moved back from abroad but i've seen our lot play Waterford & Shels and we were well worthy of points in both games. Also the reports i've heard from Dundalk were enocuraging, especially in the 2nd half. The Limerick game is probably the only one where we've genuinly played poor.

From what i've seen the gap between is and the "top 3" isnt so great, although like i say we've been playing well and it could all change if we hit a bad spell.

**L37Ultra** · 29/04/2008, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Magicme

Aw yeah, we only had the 2 keepers.

Ya same as Limerick when Jimmy Fyfe signed.

**Lim till i die** · 29/04/2008, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Splurge

It's my first season watcing Div 1 football having just moved back from abroad but i've seen our lot play Waterford & Shels and we were well worthy of points in both games. Also the reports i've heard from Dundalk were enocuraging, especially in the 2nd half. The Limerick game is probably the only one where we've genuinly played poor.

Even against us you could see that Wexford are genuinely at least trying to be a bit better than they were last year.

Absolutely atrocious team to watch last season and it's not just a bee in my own particular bonnet, I'm sure there are other first division fans somewhere who will vouch for me?!?!

They are a bit better (but not a hell of a lot at the same time mind) and this will be reflected in an improved points tally this season but with the local lads and Mick Wallace on the sideline I just don't think there is enough quality to get out of the bottom half.

**Lim till i die** · 29/04/2008, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Battery Rover

We have Ciaran Kelly (professional), Anthony Jinks (professional and GK coach) and Lee Gaffey (amateur) good keeper but not enough experience yet. he needs a season in the under 20s. There might be a reason in that.

Would it not have made sense not to sign Lee Gaffey until around the start of the 20s season if he wasn't going to be up to LoI??

Three keepers is your problem there alright.

**Battery Rover** · 29/04/2008, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Would it not have made sense not to sign Lee Gaffey until around the start of the 20s season if he wasn't going to be up to LoI??

All players that are likely to make the breakthough into the first team are signed immediately and train, travel with the squad as it helps team bonding.

**monutdfc** · 29/04/2008, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by gael353

If it was based on support/attendences, there would be two if not three first division clubs heading to A league at seasons end. I cant see one club in particular being there next season. Sad to say but thats how i feel.

Good job it's not then

**Lim till i die** · 29/04/2008, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Battery Rover

All players that are likely to make the breakthough into the first team are signed immediately and train, travel with the squad as it helps team bonding.

Fair enough.

We do things differntly down here.

Hence our decades of unparralled success

**Battery Rover** · 29/04/2008, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by gael353

If it was based on support/attendences, there would be two if not three first division clubs heading to A league at seasons end. I cant see one club in particular being there next season. Sad to say but thats how i feel.

Talking in riddles again. What three teams are we talking about?

**Lim till i die** · 29/04/2008, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by monutdfc

Good job it's not then

Darn right. I'm sure the FAI will find an even more fiendish way of eventually getting the league they want.

There is one club very much in the $hitter by all accounts though.