Venables: drink-drive Dunphy cost me job

[Armando]

I have found it very difficult to understand how such an anti-Venables sentiment developed in this country over the past few months. I think it boils down to the fact that he is the quintessential cockney with a cheeky smile. People forget that we aren't considered a great football nation, so to get such a manager as Venables would have been a great coup. Poor Student, Ciaran(lost all respect for ya), amaccann, tetsujin1979, superhoops, owlsfan, youngirish (more nonsense from you), kingdom and reder - all know more than the players who believed Venables was the man for the job. Everyone who knows the game, said that he was the ideal candidate. He was.

He has won nothing. Have Ireland ever won anything? (a cup in Iceland!!) Did Jack Charlton ever win anything? Anybody, and I stress the 'Anybody' who has played under Venables say that he was the best coach they played under. I can say no more!! I am not for one second saying that I am disappointed with Trapps appointment - I think he'll do fine - but I still think Venables would have been a better choice - given the circumstances and his knowledge of our game.

Eamonn Dunphy. I recall that he is the same man who has lauded applause onto Mr John Delaney on numerous ocassions. Vomit. Vomit!!! Giles did argue on behalf of Venables during the now 'infamous rant' - fair play to him - but he brings absolutely nothing to the table in terms of analysisability.

Good luck Trapp. I am now behind you 100%. But just take note of how the FAI operate. Look at their treatment of previous managers - and of Venables. It is clear for all to see that the people in power in Abbotstown hang on Dunphys' every word and just look how his sentiments have subconciously effected the afforementioned foot.ie members.

You are doing those foot.ie members a huge diservice here. Myself and most of them had made up our mind and done our research on Venables well before Dunphy highlighted them. In fact I am convinced that Dunphy got all his facts from reading this board!

Do a search and you will see all the facts Dunphy rattled off listed here before he made them public.

[tetsujin1979]

think the photo sums up venebles... sitting there surrounded by bling! they couldnt even get a recent photo of him in a football environment.... says it all really

Probably because any recent photo of him in a football environment would be as the assistant to the England Euro 2008 qualifying series debacle.

[jbyrne]

Stop the nonsense. He is still recognised as a great coach by his peers and every player that played under him - doesn't matter where he's sitting.

names and quotes please? i doubt the players from portsmouth, leeds or australia would agree with that

Before Trapp came on the scene - I picture you championing the causes of Jewell or Houllier before Venables. Is this true? If so, says it all really!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you actually think before any of your posts? were you planted here by fanning/hyland to wind us all up? how the hell do you know who i did or did not want the job?

one of my earliest posts on the topic was that i would like brady to be good enough for the job but feared he may not be. he's in as trapps assistant now so i wasnt too far away

[newrynyuk]

If Terry Venables is such the great coach the players claim he is, how come he wasn't working as one between being fired at Leeds in 2003 and becoming Steve McClaren's England assistant coach in 2006?

If Terry Venables is such the great coach and McClaren wasn't listening to him, why didn't he resign immediately after losing to Croatia in November? He was gonna be sacked anyway and would have made his point.

If Trapattoni's record is supposed to be suspect at international level, Venables' is even more so. Needing a win to qualify for France 98, his Australia blew a 2-0 against Iran with 20 minutes to go. And as for Euro 96, England didn't have to qualify, the played all their 5 matches at one stadium, and they only won two of them.

Venables is giving Dunphy way too much credit for his non-appointment. As others on this forum have pointed out, we all saw what a spoofer he was long before Eamo piped up.