Cancelled Irish Rail services

**mypost** · 14/09/2008, 5:30 AM

Can't see why these essential works can't be carried out at night, every night. It's not like the Cork-Cobh line is operating all night.

It screws the travel plans of fans from Rovers and UCD who wish to travel by train to Cobh for the games down there later in the season,.

**mypost** · 30/09/2008, 3:26 AM

The Kildare Route Project is still under construction, and still inconveniencing passengers travel plans outside the route.

Instead of bus transfers, and/or cancellations, long-haul services during the affected times should be departing from Connolly, going to Mullingar, and then using the reserve line connecting with Athlone, and continuing the rest of the journey from there as normal. It's a disgrace that in a country with no night trains running, that passengers can be discommoded every weekend.

**Macy** · 30/09/2008, 8:15 AM

A bus transfer would be quicker than that roundabout route.

**mypost** · 01/10/2008, 5:07 AM

Some are cancelled without any alternative transfers available, hence why they should be allowed go to Connolly and go through Mullingar and Athlone. It's longer, but at least the service is would be available.

**brianw82** · 01/10/2008, 5:36 AM

long-haul services during the affected times should be departing from Connolly

I don't think that could happen. Connolly is congested enough as it is. Track space to and from Maynooth is at a premium, and the station itself is a bottleneck.

**Macy** · 01/10/2008, 8:11 AM

Originally Posted by brianw82

I don't think that could happen. Connolly is congested enough as it is. Track space to and from Maynooth is at a premium, and the station itself is a bottleneck.

Yes, and that's why the interconnector is so important, but my post never lets the facts get in the way of good rant at Irish Rail.

**NeilMcD** · 01/10/2008, 5:55 PM

I get the train a decent amount and I always find it a good service.

**mypost** · 02/10/2008, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by brianw82

I don't think that could happen. Connolly is congested enough as it is. Track space to and from Maynooth is at a premium, and the station itself is a bottleneck.

Not at the current cancellation times. There's a couple of trains in each direction west of Maynooth, and a few railcars. Re-routing the affected services wouldn't cripple the network, it would be no busier than normal daytime traffic on the lines. Re-routing through the Phoenix Park tunnel happens before/after every big game in Croker.

**Macy** · 02/10/2008, 8:19 AM

But it's Connolly that's the problem, not the lines. That's the whole reasoning with Spencer Dock and the Interconnector - increase capacity on the Connolly lines as it's operating at virtually full capacity. There's more to the Irish Rail network than the bloody Kildare line.

**rebs23** · 03/10/2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

But it's Connolly that's the problem, not the lines. That's the whole reasoning with Spencer Dock and the Interconnector - increase capacity on the Connolly lines as it's operating at virtually full capacity. There's more to the Irish Rail network than the bloody Kildare line.

But not at cost of 2billion, sacrificing other more important infrastructural projects. Is a 3rd rail connection between Connolly and Hueston worth 2 Billion? Who is it going to benefit and how many and is there a real need?

**Macy** · 03/10/2008, 1:27 PM

I thought the interconnector was between Spencer Dock and Heuston, via Pearse, Stephen's Green (and somewhere else in the city centre I thought), rather than Connolly? This would allow commuter routes by pass Connolly and also allow the DART to be extended out the Kildare line.

tbh I've no idea of the value for money, and I'm certainly not an expert, but it does seem to be the key development for rail in Dublin. In the general scheme of transport infrastructurual developments I would've thought it would be fairly high up the list? I don't know what'll be sacrificed for it, if it even isn't going to be sacrificed.

**Bald Student** · 03/10/2008, 2:04 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

I thought the interconnector was between Spencer Dock and Heuston, via Pearse, Stephen's Green (and somewhere else in the city centre I thought), rather than Connolly? This would allow commuter routes by pass Connolly and also allow the DART to be extended out the Kildare line.

It is but it joins the current line just north of Connolly so that the trains from there can bypass the Connolly-Tara Street-Peasre line. The new DART lines will be Howth to Hazlehatch and Maynooth to Bray.

It's the most important part of the new transport plans in Dublin but I'd be a bit worried over it since it's an improvement to an existing thing rather than a new thing entirely. I think politicians more votes in a new luas or metro line rather than an improvement in an existing service.

**Macy** · 03/10/2008, 2:27 PM

Originally Posted by Bald Student

It is but it joins the current line just north of Connolly so that the trains from there can bypass the Connolly-Tara Street-Peasre line. The new DART lines will be Howth to Hazlehatch and Maynooth to Bray.

North of the bottle neck in Connolly though isn't it, which is where the issue is? I thought that was the case with the DART lines, but wasn't 100%.

**Bald Student** · 03/10/2008, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

North of the bottle neck in Connolly though isn't it, which is where the issue is? I thought that was the case with the DART lines, but wasn't 100%.

Pretty much. The track through town will still be there taking 12 trains an hour and the new one will take another 20. There'll be room for a few more to come into Dublin and go back out the way they came so alltogether there'll be about 40 trains an hour coming into Dublin from the north and north-west, which should be plenty.

I was at a talk on this in the Engineers' Institute in Dublin a few months ago so all these numbers are from memory.

**rebs23** · 03/10/2008, 4:00 PM

http://www.irishrail.ie/projects/dart_underground.asp

**mypost** · 04/10/2008, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by irishrail.ie

Upgrade works due to commence on the Cork - Cobh line this evening, 3rd October have now been deferred until further notice. Scheduled train services will operate as normal on Cork - Cobh line

**mypost** · 06/10/2008, 4:09 PM

Can someone explain why the thread title was changed some days ago??

The thread is not about cancelled services, but a general IR thread.

**dfx-** · 06/10/2008, 5:16 PM

I've just been to Zurich.

**dahamsta** · 07/10/2008, 10:47 AM

You gave it the totally meaningless title "We're not there yet". The first post is about cancelled Irish Rail services. Try using meaningful thread titles and they'll be left as is.

Originally Posted by mypost

Can someone explain why the thread title was changed some days ago??

The thread is not about cancelled services, but a general IR thread.

**mypost** · 07/10/2008, 11:42 AM

There's hundreds of similiar titles on the site.

The idea is to use the first part of IR's advertising slogan which everyone recognises, which leads into the second part of it on the first post. That now is meaningless.

Obviously, threads on IR are going to highlight cancellations at some point, but it's not the only issue in the thread.