QuoteI see that Luton keeper Dean Brill is on that list of keepers posted from the chatsoccer database.
He looked pretty good against Liverpool.
Where does it say he is qualified to play for us?
Given's 31 now, in April he'll be 32 so by the world cup he'll be 34. Might want to retire then (especially if we don't qualify).
I see that Luton keeper Dean Brill is on that list of keepers posted from the chatsoccer database.
He looked pretty good against Liverpool.
Where does it say he is qualified to play for us?
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Hope not, he's a goalie, 34 isn't that old, wasn't Semen still getting on the English team at 40 or late 30's or there abouts?Given's 31 now, in April he'll be 32 so by the world cup he'll be 34. Might want to retire then (especially if we don't qualify).
Dino Zoff aand Shilton in the same both, goalkeepers certainly have a longer shelf life than outfield player for obvious reason I guess.Originally Posted by Morbo
Ye but his groins been at him for years. Might persuade him to hang up the gloves early
Lehmann is still Germany's first choice and he's 39 this year.
harsh.... the first shot took a mad deflection and he was left stranded as a result. very unlucky in the way it came back to him
An unfortunate typo.
Has Paddy Kenny been doing some serious slimming? He looks too skinny now as well as too small.
kiely was and is the next best behind given and at his best not far behind given.I think he got dissulusioned at very rarely getting a game even when his form was on a par with given.whisper it but maybe we overate given
Afterall none of the big clubs have ever come in for him
Don't know about overrating him, but he's certainly streets ahead of our other options. Let's hope he plays on for long enough for some of the younger keepers (Supple, Doyle) to develop.
Speaking of the length of keepers' playing careers, Valencia keeper Santiago Caņizares is over 38 was playing regularly until the fiasco at the club this season.
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Where's he gone?
Seaman/Semen whats the difference?
Anyway Seaman was still playing at 40 I think although he might have played a bit too long for England as Ronaldihno added insult to injury to them in 2002 by lobbing over Semen from 30+ yards
Ya but none of the big clubs came in for Kiely either, maybe for a short while there was a time when Kiely was actually playing better than Given and he could have got a few more starts but he was never going to permanently replace Given but he would have gotten his chance had he waited around what with all Given's groin problems.
I heard a murmur that stan was not gong to pick kenny again as he went home "injured" before the Czech game, when there was nothing wrong with him. fresh start under trapp???
David James is in the best form of his life. He's 38 or 39.
Kiely is still playing very well at 39 - he'd be my favoured second choice if Shay is injured.
I think Kenny is decent but he'll need to be mentally strong to come back into the Irish fold. A friendly run out to banish to ghosts of Cyprus may be a good idea.
I think he was made scapegoat for Cyprus, unfairly, and Stan handled it badly by allowing this to happen. He came for a cross and missed it allowing the centre forward to glance the ball into an empty net, but that was his only real error. The cross should never have been allowed in anyway. O'Shea stood off his man.
It's been forgotten that in the first minute he made an important 1-on-1 stop when Finnan woefully underhit a back pass. In the last minute of the first half, seconds after Dunne's equaliser, he made a super fingertip save, tipping the ball onto the bar.
He went the wrong way for a penalty, hardly a criminal error, and could have done nothing for the others.
I'd point out about 4 or 5 performances that day that were worse than Kenny's. Finnan, O'Brien, Ireland, Kilbane, O'Shea...
Anyone remember the sitter Robbie missed trying to head the ball back across the goal but placing it wide?
Now, whether Kenny has the confidence of his defenders and can orgaise is another issue, one you can't tell on TV. By all accounts he's been excellent for his club for ages though.
I don't think the reserve goalie spot should be given out on the basis of promise. Maybe the 3rd keeper spot could go to a youngster like Doyle or Henderson if fit, but not to a teenager or a 20 year old.
Personally I don't rate Joe Murphy. I think he makes too many of the type of error that shows he has found his level at Scunthorpe. All second/third tier keepers make great saves from time to time but it doesn't mean he can be trusted at the level we need.
what's up with Henderson - has always been solid for us. No game time for ages at Preston.
Marlon Harewood colliding with Shay has caused all these injury problems - he hasn't been right since. It was disgusting how Hunt got made a scapegoat for Cech's injury's yet there the incident involving Given was just one of those things.
Colin Doyle is definitely the best of a very bad bunch.
Bohs' keeper Murphy is better than any of those imo.
Please God don't let him pick Henderson.
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The EL is definitely somewhere we should be looking for keepers. It shouldn't be too hard to tell how good a keeper no matter what the level.
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