Interesting article in today's Sunday Times (Irish edition) on the Liam Miller story. Can't find an internet link to it though.
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Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
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The Irish edition has been dropped from the ST.
Now that you have brought it up Owls you are obliged to type out a concise summary
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Originally Posted by geysir
The Irish edition has been dropped from the ST.
Now that you have brought it up Owls you are obliged to type out a concise summary
It's half a page
Bullet points:
SIGN OF BAD TIMES by Paul Rowan
* Keane met with Bryan Robson prior to his sacking. If club responds to adverse reaction of fans, "manager better off walking before being sacked." Pleased with support from Sunderland board.
*His handling of Miller situation a "serious error of judgement". The manner in which "he humiliated his player with flippant comments afterwards was deeply disappointing". Then mentions that Keane referred at a press conferenceto the number of times Miller has crashed or damaged his car.
* another former Man u player far more deserving of Keane's wrath than Miller.
* Keane's rant on MU TV about the younger players at Man U not putting in the effort mentioned Miller yet he signed him for Sunderland.
* Mentions the spat with the FAI over Miller.
* Players not let down by Miller's time keeping as Keane alleges but "are understood to be dismayed at his exclusion because the battle to avoid relegation has been made harder".
*Keane is "anxious to enhance his own self image while other far more grevious offences have gone unpunished".
*Keane "unwilling or incapable of engaging players on a personal level".
* Poor signings and mentions Halford (recommended by Coppell) now on loan at Charlton and how Keane then stormed in to Coppel's office and had to be evicted by a bouncer ((obviously sold a pup by Coppel
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* Quinn and how he is appeasing the backers.
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Nothing hugely new there except for an Irish journalist attacking Keane. However, the usual unnamed sources stuff much loved by Dion Fanning of the Indo.Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters. -
While I hate that I don't think a journalist can ever reveal their sources in an article as they wont get the quotes in future if they do. I think thats the way it works in the journalistic world.
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Thanks for all that neatly presented hard work Owls.
Obviously if Miller is a crashing his car so many times on the way to training then he is going to be late, where is Roy's compassion
Didn't Keane also say at the press conference "I am quite a nice guy", the hacks present must have been trying to suppress their laughter like the Roman soldiers in the Life of Brian. -
With the players he has available would Milller be getting picked anyway?
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No unless Reid gets injured. Miller has done ok in spurts this season but he isn't consistent enough for the Premiership. He has been transfer listed but he can still play for Sunderland and if he impresses + good behaviour I'm sure Keane will take him off the list. Originally Posted by tricky_colour
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Well that's the crux of the matter, he is far from indispensible and he can be sold Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
off at a profit for someone just as good who actually turns up for training now and again,
I mean it is not as if he is unaware of Keans attitude to people
turning up on time and it makes Keane look like a hypocrite if he allows
Millar to consistantly turn up late when he has already reprimanded younger
players for doing the same.
There are people earning a fraction of what Millar earns who would have lost
their jobs by now for doing similar.
I assume he can afford a reliable car and an alarm clock. -
F**k anti keane or what, jesus h christ remember how good he was for us ffs, even if he did walk out on the WC, he wanted to go all the way not just make up the numbers get ****ed and come back heros. How was Keane to know last year that Miller would turn into a lazy unreliable whure?? There are managers at local football level all across the island and beyond wouldn't stand for that ****e.
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I dont agree with Keane re Miller.....but...the spate of unamed sources are more than likely Millers agent putting out some anti keane p.r. Originally Posted by OwlsFan
It's half a page
Nothing hugely new there except for an Irish journalist attacking Keane. However, the usual unnamed sources stuff much loved by Dion Fanning of the Indo. -
All I can say is take off your rose tinted glasses....the real Roy Keane is on view now, and it's not a nice view nor a successful one either now is it. Originally Posted by antrimgreen
To manage you need to earn the players respect, and when you take to humiliating your palyers in public it shows you have lost the plot and don't have the repect of the players. Roy Keane to be gone before the end of this year and never to manage in the premiership again.. remember you read it here first
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Greenforever, where in my post did i say he was a great manager? I am part of a small club who have a selection committee which i am on, if someone is repeatly late then they can **** off.
And as far as management success goes, Roy Keane if he retired today he still will have been more successful than the muppet of a manager the FAI appointted before the Trap. -
I see Dunphy has once again attacked his former idol in the Star. "Humiliation of a good pro is one step too far....That was nothing short of disgraceful. Miller is a terrific professional who has performed admirably for Keane and Sunderland....doesn't deserve to have his name dragged through the mud by his manager".
There is nobody Dunphy wouldn't attack so long as he is kept in the public eye. He knows where his bread is buttered. Controversial attacks with no sense of loyalty to anyone except his pay cheque.Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters. -
Dunphy is a clown. Miller is a sub standard premiership footballer. Whether or not Keane should have engaged in the public humiliation of the guy is debatable but obviously there were serious issues relating to his timekeeping. I have no time for Dunphy as he is as inconsistent as our beautiful weather. But sadly a majority hang on his every word. Originally Posted by OwlsFan
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Surely a "good pro" would be on time for work? Originally Posted by OwlsFan
"Must you tell me all your secrets when it's hard enough to love you knowing nothing."
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will sell a few extra papers today. I admire guys who have an opinion and are not afraid to express it (especially media figures) but only when it's backed up with reason and logic. Originally Posted by OwlsFan
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Dunphy is like a stopped clock.
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and breathe...... Originally Posted by antrimgreen
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
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What happened that Dunphy and Keane have such a big falling out?
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Dunphy needs to get back in the spotlight. No Ireland at a Championship. No Irish manager to castigate. Originally Posted by twoenz
No falling out. Just a commercial move by Dunphy.Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
