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    tax is too high for the top rate so would ya blame him for not paying his tax here?

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    I actually think its too low and would much rather a Danish type system here but I suppose we dont have the politicians that should be given that much control of our finances so I suppose a low tax rate her is probably better off.
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    how is 40 odd per cent low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billsthoughts View Post
    how is 40 odd per cent low?
    Bono probably said once that it was.
    Or Glen Hansard.
    more bass

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    Grand if you want to engage at that level fair enough but you are on your own. However if you are prepared to actually find the facts on the issue come back to me.
    FACT One I'll hit you with, Bono has never once criticised Bush's policy of giving Aids relief money solely to faith based charities

    FACT Two, Bono has taken it upon himself to endorse Bush's promises for the masses, whether Bush comes through with his packages seems to be irrelevent to Sir Bono, infact you can find many instance son the internet where Bono praises Bush's commitment to Africa, based on his promises, but never any criticism of Bush when he breaks these promises.

    I can see that people might think he's friends with George W. to try and persuade him to do more on the humanitarian front, but I personally think he does it with one eye on the constant pat on the back he recieves from Bush, Oprah and anyone else with a bit of power in America. Plus if he is trying to influence George W. then he has done a pretty poor job of it to be fair, and his continued praise of the man flies in the fact of practically every independent African charities assestments of his office

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billsthoughts View Post
    how is 40 odd per cent low?
    Well in Scandanavian countries 40 per cent is very low and they would have a much higher rate of tax.

    This in turn leads to a much better financed health and transport system.

    However I can see the point that we dont trust our politicians enough to give them this control of 60 percent of our income.
    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    FACT One I'll hit you with, Bono has never once criticised Bush's policy of giving Aids relief money solely to faith based charities

    FACT Two, Bono has taken it upon himself to endorse Bush's promises for the masses, whether Bush comes through with his packages seems to be irrelevent to Sir Bono, infact you can find many instance son the internet where Bono praises Bush's commitment to Africa, based on his promises, but never any criticism of Bush when he breaks these promises.

    I can see that people might think he's friends with George W. to try and persuade him to do more on the humanitarian front, but I personally think he does it with one eye on the constant pat on the back he recieves from Bush, Oprah and anyone else with a bit of power in America. Plus if he is trying to influence George W. then he has done a pretty poor job of it to be fair, and his continued praise of the man flies in the fact of practically every independent African charities assestments of his office
    I don't think that having a go at George Bush would achieve anything on this issue. I actually think that Bono has withdrawn his natural instince to criticise Bush on many issues in order that he can achieve some of the things that he has set out to. Bascically I think he is of the view that the greater good is worth much more than his pride or reputation or how people see him in the world. Many people, espcieally Irish people see him as a tosser but I don't think he cares.

    Do you actually think he cares about the pat on the back from Bush and Oprah and that is why he would dedicate that amount of time for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    FACT One I'll hit you with, Bono has never once criticised Bush's policy of giving Aids relief money solely to faith based charities

    FACT Two, Bono has taken it upon himself to endorse Bush's promises for the masses, whether Bush comes through with his packages seems to be irrelevent to Sir Bono, infact you can find many instance son the internet where Bono praises Bush's commitment to Africa, based on his promises, but never any criticism of Bush when he breaks these promises.

    I can see that people might think he's friends with George W. to try and persuade him to do more on the humanitarian front, but I personally think he does it with one eye on the constant pat on the back he recieves from Bush, Oprah and anyone else with a bit of power in America. Plus if he is trying to influence George W. then he has done a pretty poor job of it to be fair, and his continued praise of the man flies in the fact of practically every independent African charities assestments of his office

    Read a good article about the work Bush has done in Africa 29 mill kids now in school 1.5 mill aids victims now on invitro drugs amoung many other points due to Bush. But sure we have to follow the herd and hate him because of "the war"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    I don't think that having a go at George Bush would achieve anything on this issue.

    Do you actually think he cares about the pat on the back from Bush and Oprah and that is why he would dedicate that amount of time for that.
    Well praising him to the hilt doesn't work, and when you are talking up his efforts as a humanatarian in the same instance as he is commiting severe human rights breaches in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo is insulting to the general public, and grossly misleading to people who actually listen to him. Given that he is an intelligent man I assume he knows he is misleading people and so I assume he does all this for the backslaps and photocalls

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208 View Post
    Read a good article about the work Bush has done in Africa 29 mill kids now in school 1.5 mill aids victims now on invitro drugs amoung many other points due to Bush. But sure we have to follow the herd and hate him because of "the war"
    Personally I don't like George Bush because of his father. I mean, how could he not like Homer or Bart Simpson? They would be great neighbours imo.

    Anyways, the song is god awful and if you asked some local pub singers in Dublin to come up with a song for Ronnie Drew Im pretty sure they would have written a better song than that tripe.

    Oh and Pat Kenny isn't a patch on Gaybo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy View Post
    Personally I don't like George Bush because of his father. I mean, how could he not like Homer or Bart Simpson? They would be great neighbours imo.

    Anyways, the song is god awful and if you asked some local pub singers in Dublin to come up with a song for Ronnie Drew Im pretty sure they would have written a better song than that tripe.

    Oh and Pat Kenny isn't a patch on Gaybo.
    Sounds like a listeners song on the Joe duffy show

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    Never mind any of this chutney - did I see that incubus Keating on the video ?

    The insult - we have greats like Bono, Edge, Outspan, Shane and somebody let that Cliff Richard wannabe in the room ?

    If he was making the tea, then I will look the other way, but he better not have been allowed to play with the big boys
    DB Cooper is alive !

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208 View Post
    Sounds like a listeners song on the Joe duffy show
    ... a review so devastatingly true it ranks up there along the one given to Michaela Strachans SAW produced single, which asserted that not being one of Michaelas parents wouldn't preclude you from enjoying her effort but would most certainly help.

    Well observed.
    " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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    Does anyone else think that Shane McGowan should be put down? At this stage he's just a national embarrassment.
    LESS OF THE BULL NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambler14 View Post
    Does anyone else think that Shane McGowan should be put down? At this stage he's just a national embarrassment.
    ...do you think anything you don't say?
    " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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