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    Delaney hits back at Keane.

    I have to say fair play to Delaney. I have said it before on another thread that I thought Keane was talking ****e in relation to the FAI for the last few months. As Delaney says he should concentrate on Sunderland first rather than other peoples business. Get your own house in order as they say. If someone said to me a few years ago that I would support Delaney in a debate with Keane I would have laughed at you but he is dead right on this issue.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0217/fai.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    I have to say fair play to Delaney. I have said it before on another thread that I thought Keane was talking ****e in relation to the FAI for the last few months. As Delaney says he should concentrate on Sunderland first rather than other peoples business. Get your own house in order as they say. If someone said to me a few years ago that I would support Delaney in a debate with Keane I would have laughed at you but he is dead right on this issue.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0217/fai.html
    I think alot of people are starting to think that, Keanes ramblings over the past few months have become tiresome and frankly embarrassing. His abuse of the english players for having no character after losing to croatia was followed up by sundireland losing 7-0! Should learn to keep his opinions to himself more.
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    Totally agree. Love the comments about Keane's transfer record & passing judgement on the GAA

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    Although the argument can be made that Keane probably gets asked these asinine questions, I would agree that yes, Keane should stop mouthing off about anything and everything, soccer related or not. I don't think the FAI are perfect, but Keane just looks like a moaner.

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    Total "Roy Boy".....but

    ....Delaney is dead right on this one.This has been the best week in a long time for Irish Football.O Briens largesse is being bemoaned instead of celebrated.As along time fan, I can safely say , for the first time in a long time the buzz is back.Serbia in May can't come quick enough.OH TRAPATTONI A REAL AZZURRI.....IN THE GREEN ARMY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    I have to say fair play to Delaney. I have said it before on another thread that I thought Keane was talking ****e in relation to the FAI for the last few months. As Delaney says he should concentrate on Sunderland first rather than other peoples business. Get your own house in order as they say. If someone said to me a few years ago that I would support Delaney in a debate with Keane I would have laughed at you but he is dead right on this issue.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0217/fai.html
    Keane just said what everyone was thinkin. He speaks his mind. He is doing a good job with Sunderland - judgement should be reserved until season is over. Delaney is a class A clown and nobody should forget that. Taking any credit for the Trapp appointment by hitting out at
    Keane is characteristic of a man with no courage.

    All Delaney wants to do is make the RTE panel happy. Dunphy has a go at Keane - then Delaney has a go. Sickening!!! Venables was right when he said that Dunphy shafted him. Why do we have to listen to idiots like Delaney and Dunphy anyway????? Not sure about a section of Irish support at the moment. Supporting John Delaney? Calling for S Hunt to be introduced to somehow change a game? Standing for Dunphy implicitly calling the shots. Please waken up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigmanCas View Post
    He is doing a good job with Sunderland
    you've got to be kidding
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    Not one of your comments above is based on any fact what so ever.

    Keane did not say what everyone was thinking as can be seen from my post and other peoples posts. Keanes comments were both untrue and unhelpful in this process. I said from the start that there was too much comment being passed by people who did not know the ins and outs of the process and the only way to judge it was was the result it produced. Well the result it produced was one of the greatest managers in the history of the game so I am prepared to say fair play to the 3 guys.

    Keane was commenting on issues he did not know about as he did not know how the 3 guys were going about their job. He was only doing it to deflect away from his troubles and also to have another dig at the FAI. I thought Keane was right in 2002 because he was in at the coalface and his comments could achieve good etc however now it just comes across as hurler on the ditch and without foundation most of the time.

    I have read many of your comments on this board over the last few weeks and I would be getting very very worried if many Irish fans started to think about the game in the same way you do. While no fan of Delaney or Dunphy I think on the Trapattoni appointment they have been largely right. Someone told me before that no person is always right and no person is always wrong and the best thing is to listen to what they are saying rather than who is saying it. This is what I try to do with Keane, Delaney, Dunphy, Givens and whoever it may be and while all these 4 people talk ****e sometimes, sometimes they are actually right.

    Finally Hunt does have a role for Ireland, as he has been in great form for Reading this year. He delivers a great cross and he works the line great getting up and down and if you were a fullback, he would be a nightmare to play against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    He is. Sunderland are doing the best of the 3 promoted teams at the moment. He's used his reputation and links to bring in players of a quality that other managers in the club simply wouldn't be able to attract. Like Richardson, Evans, Reid and Gordon.
    Jesus he is in big trouble if there are other managers at the club. So who else is the manger there.
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    If Roy Keane, or any other Premiership manager, were as incompetent as John Delaney, then they would have gotten the sack a long time ago.

    Trapattoni has taken pity upon us and suddenly John Delaney thinks he's God. Well we still remember John Delaney appointing his golfing buddy as Ireland manager. There's no fooling us. Why doesn't he get around to implementing the Genesis report, the same Genesis report that came about thanks to Roy Keane pointing out years and years of FAI bollucks.

    Delaney: "He looks very good on deflecting from his own issues." This is king bloody deflection speaking here.

    This is pretty stupid by Delaney, Roy Keane might make a damn fine international manager some day down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    He is. Sunderland are doing the best of the 3 promoted teams at the moment. He's used his reputation and links to bring in players of a quality that other managers in the club simply wouldn't be able to attract. Like Richardson, Evans, Reid and Gordon.
    Are you for real??? He's been able to bring in players like that because he was given a budget of nearly £50m which none of the other promoted teams have. There'd be something seriously wrong if they weren't doing the best out of all 3 promoted teams. He's squandered a good chunk of that budget to boot.

    Some people are still so blinkered about Keane it's beyond belief....

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    Quote Originally Posted by brine3 View Post
    the same Genesis report that came about thanks to Roy Keane pointing out years and years of FAI bollucks.
    oh thank you Roy, thank you, for walking out on us during the World Cup to show us the error of our ways.


    STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigmanCas View Post
    Keane just said what everyone was thinkin. He speaks his mind. He is doing a good job with Sunderland - judgement should be reserved until season is over. Delaney is a class A clown and nobody should forget that. Taking any credit for the Trapp appointment by hitting out at
    Keane is characteristic of a man with no courage.

    All Delaney wants to do is make the RTE panel happy. Dunphy has a go at Keane - then Delaney has a go. Sickening!!! Venables was right when he said that Dunphy shafted him. Why do we have to listen to idiots like Delaney and Dunphy anyway????? Not sure about a section of Irish support at the moment. Supporting John Delaney? Calling for S Hunt to be introduced to somehow change a game? Standing for Dunphy implicitly calling the shots. Please waken up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Speaking your mind is irrelevant if you have nothing useful to say. The FAI headhunt turned out to be a big something out of nothing. The end result is a potentially great manager for us. And speaking about the GAA situation just proves what a waffler he has become!

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    Congratulations, John Delaney. You have successfully deflected attention from the questionable ethics of letting a fan buy out Steve Staunton as manager and from the general incompetence of the FAI, by stirring up yet another Saipan-centered p1ssing match.

    If Delaney were as competent at running the FAI as he is a crafty politician and spinster, Ireland would be qualifying for every tournament and have one of the top football leagues in Europe. But of course, his silver tongue is only utilized to cover his own incompetent tracks and keep him in power.

    Don't be fooled -- the only one deflecting here is Delaney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kivlehan View Post
    Don't be fooled -- the only one deflecting here is Delaney.
    I agree. I noted on the FOotball Feeds forum - and may as well note here, as no-one really reads the posts on that forum - that Delaney's response was of the sort our more stupid posters here would post. It didn't respons to any criticisms; it merely said "Who's he to complain about us when he's doing this?" In reality, I'd say most people had forgotten about Keane's rant, so to dig it up, and with such a petty attitude - doesn't reflect well on Delaney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    Jesus he is in big trouble if there are other managers at the club. So who else is the manger there.
    Well done Neil - you know what was meant yet you have identified some little mistake to totally defelect from the argument. Keane has done well. On the whole he has purchased well - he has a slight geographical disadvantage in that not many pros want to play in the NE of England. He brought a team from rock bottom of the championship to promotion as championship winners. He is nearing mid table with Sunderland.

    Reading are going down I suspect - S Hunts performances aren't exactly setting the night on fire. Lets call a spade a spade. He is sub standard. OK we'll agree to disagree and reserve judgement until the end of the season. I predict respectability for Keane and relegation for Hunt. He'll be playing with his brother in the SPL next season - He is c**p!! IMO.

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    Well done John Delaney, successfully shifted the deal he did with O'Brien off the sports pages. Is Keane bigger news than the Irish International Team given that it worked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigmanCas View Post
    Well done Neil - you know what was meant yet you have identified some little mistake to totally defelect from the argument. Keane has done well. On the whole he has purchased well - he has a slight geographical disadvantage in that not many pros want to play in the NE of England. He brought a team from rock bottom of the championship to promotion as championship winners. He is nearing mid table with Sunderland.

    Reading are going down I suspect - S Hunts performances aren't exactly setting the night on fire. Lets call a spade a spade. He is sub standard. OK we'll agree to disagree and reserve judgement until the end of the season. I predict respectability for Keane and relegation for Hunt. He'll be playing with his brother in the SPL next season - He is c**p!! IMO.
    So now this argument is all based on whether Sunderland survive ahead of Reading lol. Also you will see i did that little joke with a smile and as a seperate response. I did respond to your post in full if you read back on the thread. So not trying to deflect at all.

    Point is that Keane was having a go at the FAI and as CEO Delaney was defending it. That is his job as CEO if somebody makes false allegations against the FAI. Fanning tried to do the same and he had to correct himself yesterday in the paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigmanCas View Post
    he has a slight geographical disadvantage in that not many pros want to play in the NE of England.
    I don't think this is true. Newcastle have managed to bring players like Owen, Ginola, Asprilla and others to their club over the years, and are also in the north of England.

    I think most players don't want to go to Sunderland because the team isn't great, but it is easier for Keane to say it is a geographical problem, rather than the quality of his team.

    That said, I think he's doing ok as Sunderland manager, he hasn't bought very well, but looks like keeping them up, which I would think was the objective at the start of the season. If I were a Sunderland fan though, I'd be concerned that there isn't really any foundation to the squad, meaning that if they do stay up, they will be in the same position as they are now, fighting for survival.

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    Apparently John Delaney is not allowed defend himself or the FAI without it being called an attempt to deflect the attention away from the DO'B contribution (supported by 75% of the people). Is one not allowed to defend one's self from snipings from the North East of England?

    Keane is articulate but he hasn't learned yet that he doesn't have to answer every question he's asked. Every week there is a soundbite from him on just about every topic under the sun. Delaney said Keane should concentrate on his own job - not pontificate on goings across the water either in the FAI or GAA and I think he's correct. It's like as if he is some sort of Guru or prophet or has to make pronouncements and his devoted followers hang on every word.
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