Ireland line-up under Trapattoni

[finnpark]

--------------Buffon--------------------
Panucci---Nesta---Cannavaro---Zambrotta
--------Perrotta-----Zanetti-------------
--Camoranesi--Totti----Del Piero--------
---------------Vieri--------------------

Plenty of Italian teams play it. When Roma played Totti as the main striker last season they always had 3 players supporting with De Rossi and Pizarro sitting in midfield.

Stop talking rubbish! That should be a 1-4-3-3 with Totti,Del Piero and Vieri all playing as forwards. Its quite an attacking formation actually.

What Trappattoni plays is the catenaccio system. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio

"Italy's previous coaches, Cesare Maldini and Giovanni Trapattoni, used the catenaccio at international heights, and have all failed to reach the top"

[shakermaker1982]

I think he could go down this route, impossible to predict but fun anyway. Duff's strongest position is on the left wing and I don't think we should play him on the right just so we can accomodate Duff. Kilbane hasn't a clue at LB whereas O'Shea can slot right in and put in an average shift. O'Shea isn't a CB and that's why I've had to stump for McShane. We are crying out for somebody to play alongside Dunne but I think McShane can do a job if Dunne keeps talking to him. O'Dea won't feature until he's playing week in week out at Celtic.

--------------Given-----------------

S Kelly ---Dunne---McShane---O'Shea

------------S Reid---A Reid----------

Hunt---------S Ireland----------Duff

---------------Keane---------------

[eirebhoy]

"Most notably, I’ve gone through 4-4-2 and 4-3-3, not to mention 4-2-3-1 with the national side.

“You have to use your experience and know international football well to be able to blend into different cultures. You need to get acquainted with the language, food and habits of the country and, above all, never improvise in an attempt to get yourself accepted. Otherwise, you end up like a bull in a china shop.”

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/cl...id=128101.html

[NeilMcD]

Stop talking rubbish! That should be a 1-4-3-3 with Totti,Del Piero and Vieri all playing as forwards. Its quite an attacking formation actually.

What Trappattoni plays is the catenaccio system. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio

"Italy's previous coaches, Cesare Maldini and Giovanni Trapattoni, used the catenaccio at international heights, and have all failed to reach the top"

Eirebhoy has said it as it is, you are living in cloud cuckoo land with that formation. Who the hell is the one in the team is that the keeper, Totti dropped off in that formation. and so did Del Piero. Eirebhoy has it spot on.

[finnpark]

"Most notably, I’ve gone through 4-4-2 and 4-3-3, not to mention 4-2-3-1 with the national side.

“You have to use your experience and know international football well to be able to blend into different cultures. You need to get acquainted with the language, food and habits of the country and, above all, never improvise in an attempt to get yourself accepted. Otherwise, you end up like a bull in a china shop.”

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/cl...id=128101.html

Lets hope that he has learned from his mistakes at his previous job which was a distaster. These systems are easier to make work at club level as coaches have tiem to work on them and buy in the right players but I sure hope that he doesn't go with that system.

Im quite sure he won't.

[eirebhoy]

Whatever system you want to play I hope to see Reid, Reid, Ireland, Duff and McGeady in the same team.

[NeilMcD]

Lets hope that he has learned from his mistakes at his previous job which was a distaster. These systems are easier to make work at club level as coaches have tiem to work on them and buy in the right players but I sure hope that he doesn't go with that system.

Im quite sure he won't.

Well lets hope he does not play a four four two with Carsley and Ireland

[BigmanCas]

Whatever system you want to play I hope to see Reid, Reid, Ireland, Duff and McGeady in the same team.

Dream on EB - Trapp is a defence minded coach - IThat rules S Ireland out - plus I don't think he'll like his attitude.

[eirebhoy]

Sven Erikson is a defensive minded coach too. He plays Ireland ahead of Geovanni who was a regular in Traps Benfica team.

[tetsujin1979]

Dream on EB - Trapp is a defence minded coach - IThat rules S Ireland out - plus I don't think he'll like his attitude.

According to this - http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...d-1290828.html - he definitely wants Ireland in the side

Yes, I know about the situation," said Trapattoni. "He's a very, very important player for Ireland."

The City star has not featured for his country since withdrawing from the squad before last September's Euro 2008 qualifying clash with Slovakia, claiming erroneously that his grandmothers had died. "I will ask my friend Sven-Goran Eriksson. I will ask Liam Brady, I will ask Don Givens what is the best for the player"

He's not going to the trouble of speaking to Eriksson, Brady and Givens for the good of his health

[Stuttgart88]

I sure hope that he doesn't go with that system.

I hope he plays players in roles that get the best out of them and makes the most balanced team. I don't care what "system" it is.

[cavan_fan]

Whatever system you want to play I hope to see Reid, Reid, Ireland, Duff and McGeady in the same team.

Maybe I'm a defensive old sod but I think you can only have 3 of A Reid, Ireland, McGeady and Duff, especially without a good one up front player.

[dublinmick]

Paddy Agnew has a piece in the Irish Times today in which he quotes Trapattoni saying he prefers 3-4-1-2 *.

What would that mean for us?
Could it be something like:

Given

Kelly Dunne O'Shea

McGeady S Reid A Reid Duff
Ireland
Keane Doyle

Or is that far too attacking for him?

Personally, I'm extremely excited about Trapattoni.

* Here's the quote: On the many occasions he has been accused of playing too defensive a game, Trapattoni has often replied by pointing out that his sides nearly always feature three men up front. Look at the statistics, he will say. Six times between 1981 and 1989, sides coached by him topped the goalscoring chart in Serie A: "My ideal lineout is a 3-5-2 in which one of the midfielders is really an inside forward, so it would be 3-4-1-2."

EDIT: Oops, I see this has been mentioned in previous pages. Chiedo scusa...

[eirebhoy]

Yeh he plays a defensive system but with quite a lot of attacking players.

3-5-2 sounds attacking but 99% of the time it'll be 3 centre halves with 2 full backs playing a more advanced role. Barca tried the 3-5-2 last season with 5 proper midfielders. One of the midfielders would tuck in at full back when they lose possession. It failed badly.

[BigmanCas]

Yeh he plays a defensive system but with quite a lot of attacking players.

3-5-2 sounds attacking but 99% of the time it'll be 3 centre halves with 2 full backs playing a more advanced role. Barca tried the 3-5-2 last season with 5 proper midfielders. One of the midfielders would tuck in at full back when they lose possession. It failed badly.

EB - Ireland do not have three centre backs - simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eirebhoy]

I don't think I'm the person that suggested playing a 3-5-2.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scram]

Paddy Agnew has a piece in the Irish Times today in which he quotes Trapattoni saying he prefers 3-4-1-2 *.

What would that mean for us?
Could it be something like:

Given

Kelly Dunne O'Shea

McGeady S Reid A Reid Duff
Ireland
Keane Doyle

Or is that far too attacking for him?

Personally, I'm extremely excited about Trapattoni.

* Here's the quote: On the many occasions he has been accused of playing too defensive a game, Trapattoni has often replied by pointing out that his sides nearly always feature three men up front. Look at the statistics, he will say. Six times between 1981 and 1989, sides coached by him topped the goalscoring chart in Serie A: "My ideal lineout is a 3-5-2 in which one of the midfielders is really an inside forward, so it would be 3-4-1-2."

EDIT: Oops, I see this has been mentioned in previous pages. Chiedo scusa...

Kelly Dunne O'Shea !! That would be comical :-)

O'Shea can't hold his own as part of a back four never mind three and Kelly was on the right as part of a back three in a ridiculous attempt by Stan at a new formation especially given Kelly's relative inexperience.

Hope to see a 4-3-2-1 formation myself.

[jmurphyc]

I hope Trapattoni lines up with something like this:
Given
Finnan(?) Dunne XXXX XXXX
Reid Reid
McGeady Ireland Duff
Keane

I don't like the sound of 3-4-1-2. I doubt Trapattoni will play this, as we don't seem to have the personnel for it but if he feels he can get the best out of us with that formation then I trust him.

As for a Carsley-Ireland central midfield; whoever said that should re-watch the Slovakia away game. We were completely overrun in midfield with those two during that game.

[the doc]

EB - Ireland do not have three centre backs - simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We do have the centre backs, Lets hope the new manager goes out and watches them instead of listening to Givens who just keeps on pushing for the likes of the very limited McShane and Bruce.

[Superhoops]

We do have the centre backs, .....

And they are who exactly?