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**half_full** · 14/02/2008, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Wangball

Am I correct in saying that Quigley & Murphy both had a craic at the "big time" in England and came back???

Stack, Doyle, Kenny, Supple, Randolph, Henderson, Joe Murphy - all of these lads are better keepers than whats knocking about the EL right now

I would only rate Kenny as better than any of the better LoI keepers.

Murphy at Bohs, Devine at Cork, Conner at Drogheda and of course the best keeper in the league Barry Murphy. Don't forget the likes of Delaney and Barry Ryan either.

**jebus** · 14/02/2008, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by half_full

Not a chance unfortunatley, but there are plenty of LoI players up to the standard.

Like who? And I want names a plenty. I'm going to ignore the Corkie's remarks based on the assumption that he clearly hasn't a clue. Murphy would be torn to shreds in the Championship for example, Kenny is actually very good at that level

**half_full** · 14/02/2008, 12:33 PM

Bohs:
Jason Byrne

Cork:
Devine
Gamble
O'Callaghan
Mooney
Behan

Drogheda:
Gartland
Shelly
Stuart Byrne
Cahill
Robinson
Zayed

St. Pat's
Quigley

All, plus more, should be at least considered.

**jebus** · 14/02/2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by half_full

Bohs:
Jason Byrne

Cork:
Devine
Gamble
O'Callaghan
Mooney
Behan

Drogheda:
Gartland
Shelly
Stuart Byrne
Cahill
Robinson
Zayed

St. Pat's
Quigley

All, plus more, should be at least considered.

For the Irish team? Not a chance. To be given a shot at a lower Championship side? Maybe Gartland, Zayed, Quigley and Gamble, the rest would flop as badly as Georgie and Jason Byrne did

**half_full** · 14/02/2008, 12:39 PM

Didnt say they would be the starting XI

just that they (and more like them) should be considered.

**McShels** · 14/02/2008, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by half_full

Bohs:
Jason Byrne

Cork:
Devine
Gamble
O'Callaghan
Mooney
Behan

Drogheda:
Gartland
Shelly
Stuart Byrne
Cahill
Robinson
Zayed

St. Pat's
Quigley

All, plus more, should be at least considered.

Devine doesn't qualify to play for Ireland!!!!!!
If we are hoping to get EL players onto the international squad it is to the younger players we have to look oh yea and Behan is muck....

**jebus** · 14/02/2008, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by half_full

Didnt say they would be the starting XI

just that they (and more like them) should be considered.

Shouldn't even be considered in my opinion. The overall standard of the league is roughly that of lower League One, probably League Two, maybe even Blue Premier, but I'm in a good mood today so I'll say lower League One to higher League Two. You wouldn't want any Irish Shrewsbury, MK Dons, etc. players being called up or considered for the squad, or at least you shouldn't, so I don't see why an exeption should be made just because they play in Ireland

**DmanDmythDledge** · 14/02/2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Wangball

Am I correct in saying that Quigley & Murphy both had a craic at the "big time" in England and came back???

Stack, Doyle, Kenny, Supple, Randolph, Henderson, Joe Murphy - all of these lads are better keepers than whats knocking about the EL right now

No. Quigley went over as a 16 year old, broke his arm almost as soon as he went over and was then released.

Quigley has been ahead of Doyle, Randolph and Supple in the U21 pecking order over the past few years.

**pineapple stu** · 14/02/2008, 12:58 PM

Quigley was on trial at a couple of British clubs last year (Stockport and Falkirk) and didn't sign. So Wangball is perfectly correct. Murphy was with Swansea and as far as I know wasn't getting a look in when he decided to come home, but I'll stand corrected if needs be.

**WoodquayBoy** · 14/02/2008, 1:00 PM

Forgot abourt Quigley, fine keeper but still wouldn't have him in the Irish squad. And ignoring the eligibility issue, to suggest Devine is one of the top keepers in the league is a joke surely???

**half_full** · 14/02/2008, 1:03 PM

No I wouldn't consider Devine good enough (a few years ago he was), but would consider him better than any League1/lower championship keeper.

**half_full** · 14/02/2008, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Shouldn't even be considered in my opinion. The overall standard of the league is roughly that of lower League One, probably League Two, maybe even Blue Premier, but I'm in a good mood today so I'll say lower League One to higher League Two. You wouldn't want any Irish Shrewsbury, MK Dons, etc. players being called up or considered for the squad, or at least you shouldn't, so I don't see why an exeption should be made just because they play in Ireland

Maybe thats L37 standard but its not the standard of the top clubs. Cork, Drogheda etc. would easily hold their own in the Championship.

**pineapple stu** · 14/02/2008, 1:04 PM

Oh God, not this again.

**osarusan** · 14/02/2008, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Oh God, not this again.

My thoughts exactly.

These players aren't being ignored because of some systematic attempt to annoy eL fans, they aren't picked because they're not good enough.

**NeilMcD** · 14/02/2008, 1:20 PM

I largely agree with you there lads but I think in relation to Murphy at Bohs especially I honestly think he should have or should be in an Ireland squad.

**sullanefc** · 14/02/2008, 1:25 PM

Originally Posted by McShels

Devine doesn't qualify to play for Ireland!!!!!!

um? Devine is from Cork? How does he not qualify?

Originally Posted by half_full

No I wouldn't consider Devine good enough (a few years ago he was), but would consider him better than any League1/lower championship keeper.

Devine's star is certainly on the wane. Even city fans would admit to that, and I think he has missed his chance.

But Quigley and Murphy are fine keepers and anyone who rates Kenny and Doyle ahead of them clearly hasn't a clue.

**jebus** · 14/02/2008, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by half_full

Maybe thats L37 standard but its not the standard of the top clubs. Cork, Drogheda etc. would easily hold their own in the Championship.

easily hold their own? Are you joking? You think Cork, Drogheda etc. are better than Sheffield Utd, Sheffield Wednesday and QPR to name but a few teams struggling in this year's Championship. How do you think they would last with their pathetic (by comparison) attendences and wage structure?

No disrespect to UCD on this, but I think they'd struggle to stay afloat in the Blue Square North/South, and yet are comfortably one of the Irish Premier's mainstays. Limerick 37 wouldn't even be at that level, nevermind Blue Premier

**Steve Bruce** · 14/02/2008, 1:42 PM

I agree totally with Jebus

**Wangball** · 14/02/2008, 1:46 PM

Does anyone really believe that there is 1 current LOI player who will have a role to play in our qualification for the World Cup??

The inclusion on an EL player in the squad now would just be a case of tokenism & nobody wants that

**half_full** · 14/02/2008, 1:56 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

easily hold their own? Are you joking? You think Cork, Drogheda etc. are better than Sheffield Utd, Sheffield Wednesday and QPR to name but a few teams struggling in this year's Championship. How do you think they would last with their pathetic (by comparison) attendences and wage structure?

No disrespect to UCD on this, but I think they'd struggle to stay afloat in the Blue Square North/South, and yet are comfortably one of the Irish Premier's mainstays. Limerick 37 wouldn't even be at that level, nevermind Blue Premier

I think that Cork and Drogheda would hold their own in the Championship.
St. Pat's, Bohs, Rovers, Sligo, Derry would all be league of League 1 standard.

Originally Posted by Wangball

Does anyone really believe that there is 1 current LOI player who will have a role to play in our qualification for the World Cup??

The inclusion on an EL player in the squad now would just be a case of tokenism & nobody wants that

No it wouldn't, and if you believe that then I really do feel sorry for you. It's probably a fair reflection of how the Ole Ole bunch see the league though.