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    Givens Out!

    Anyone else get the feeling that Givens is delaying the selection of the new manager so that he gets the honour of managing the team against Brazil??

    A few quotes from him in today's Star:

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Givens
    It is a great honour to lead the team out in Croker for a game against Brazil. If you were to offer me one game in charge of my country, then this would be it, because Brazil are so special as a football nation and a football team.

    I'm excited by the game, and I have an unbeaten record as caretaker boss to protect as well, so it will be interesting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cathal Dervan
    The new manager, for example, might only get to watch the Brazil game from the stands because elements within the FAI may want to remain as caretaker boss for the biggest game of his career.
    IMO Don Givens' vanity has already prevented the new manager from deciding fixtures and having an extra game to prepare his squad.

    The game against Brazil has not caught the imagination of the fans as much as it should have because of this debacle.

    He is alienating players like Stephen Ireland and Clinton Morrison by not selecting them.

    He is embarassing himself by shooting his mouth off in the press.

    And his U21 record is abysmal.

    Time for him to go? Should he get the same reaction that Stan got in his last game in Croke Park.

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    "I'm excited by the game, and I have an unbeaten record as caretaker boss to protect as well, so it will be interesting."

    This is hillarious - surely he did not say that?? What a complete muppet.

    This is evidence that he has an ego and and a misguided sense of his own self importance. Hence also why he feels the needs to comment on players when he should just keep his mouth shut.

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    of course he has an ego. He appears to be unsackable as U21 manager, he's been "caretaker" 3 times now, and Delaney gave him the opportunity to pick his own boss.

    What Don Givens is doing right now is trying to put himself in people's minds for the senior job. He can go f*** himself.
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    It has turned into the Givens show. Delaney must be delighted that nobody is focusing on him for this farce. Good to hear Don going on about his unbeaten record at Senior level but no mention of his actual job as u/21's manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    What Don Givens is doing right now is trying to put himself in people's minds for the senior job. He can go f*** himself.
    Incorrect. He has always said that he doesnt want the big job.

    Whatever you think of Givens, I wouldnt cricify him over Stephen Ireland. DaddyDick has had problems with three Ireland managers. Funny how he never has problems with the club that pays his wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stojkovic View Post
    Incorrect. He has always said that he doesnt want the big job.

    Whatever you think of Givens, I wouldnt cricify him over Stephen Ireland. DaddyDick has had problems with three Ireland managers. Funny how he never has problems with the club that pays his wages.
    This has nothing to do with that clown either.
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    How is Givens with such a dire managerial record as the/21's the face of this selection process and chief amigo.

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    One thing that interests me is that the selection process is being dictated by Don Givens schedule. He can't meet prospective candidates due to him doing his coaching badges. If he cant fully commit to the job of interviewing people, he shouldn't have taken it on. In any profesional business this would not be allowed to happen.
    Oh, I have just realised I used the word professional in relation to this selection process. My apologies!

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    Givens record as U/21 manager in Uefa qualifying overall is as follows
    Won 9, Drew 5, Lost 16
    His record since 2004 is
    Won 3, Drew 2, Lost 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar View Post
    How is Givens with such a dire managerial record as the/21's the face of this selection process and chief amigo.
    Because he is an unsackable company man.

    Givens OUT!!!

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    Givens is a clown, because of him our under 21 team are incapable of winning matches. His record with the 21's is terrible. I'm not sure of the exact figures but from what i remember Ireland 21's under Don Givens have lost 3 quarters of their matches. If he was managing a club he would have been gone a long time ago.
    He is the reason that there are no good players coming through to the senior team. He is the reason why our senior team is crap and now he is the reason we will remain to be crap because he is picking the new manager.
    It shouldn't happen but the FAI are so clueless they let him carry on. There is no way he should have a say in picking the new manager or any sort of Irish team.
    The man can't pick his nose never mind a manager!
    LESS OF THE BULL NOW!

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    Its always been in my mind that Givens is pushing himself for this job, maybe not this appointment, but certainly for the next time it comes up. Regardless of his stating he's not interested.
    It should be a point of examination at the closest delaney interview, as imo, we've had our greatest bunch of players at that level the time Givens has been in charge and he's constantly mucked it up.
    I think its gas by the way how much bile was stoked up against Brian Kerr over Stephen Ireland while Givens is proclaimed as a National fcuking hero in some quarters in the media.
    Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!

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    I dont dislike Don Givens because of the Stephen Ireland situation, I dislike Don Givens because of the Don Givens situation.
    On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"

    And they nearly did.

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    I can't believe the way Givens is treated by most fans. Everyone goes on about his poor record at U21 level but that doesn't count for anything. The fact is, look at how many U21 players of his have been called up during Staunton's regime . That is proof that he is one of the greatest U21 managers of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmurphyc
    Everyone goes on about his poor record at U21 level but that doesn't count for anything. The fact is, look at how many U21 players of his have been called up during Staunton's regime .
    His U-21 record is irrelevant really. His job there is to groom players for the senior team, quite successfully it has to be said.

    He was also right regarding the Stephen Ireland situation. I don't want to see him in an Ireland squad again. The way he left the squad was disgraceful, and is in many ways, worse than how Roy Keane did. Afaic, he has retired from international football, and good riddance.

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    Mountain out of a molehill. Stephen Ireland's situation is old news and we all knew what Givens thought about it all along, and Chris McCann and any other young upstart or retiring 30 year old.

    To say he's delaying the manager appointment so he can inflate his ego against Brazil is daft.

    Great player, poor U21 manager, (overly) conservative caretaker manager and seemingly decent, principled bloke for whom wearing the green means more than many of those lucky enough to do so these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    To say he's delaying the manager appointment so he can inflate his ego against Brazil is daft.
    Uh-huh. How long after the Brazil game do you think they'll finally find the right man?

    decent, principled bloke
    My arse he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    seemingly decent, principled bloke.
    Probably. However, it is probably the posession of these strict principles which have blinded him to the fact that his positions as the FAI's U21 manager and as Head of the FAI's interview board are incompatible (and frankly inappropriate) and that some of his recent comments to the press have been ill considered, to say the least.
    On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"

    And they nearly did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bondvillain View Post
    Probably. However, it is probably the posession of these strict principles which have blinded him to the fact that his positions as the FAI's U21 manager and as Head of the FAI's interview board are incompatible (and frankly inappropriate) and that some of his recent comments to the press have been ill considered, to say the least.
    He's always so decent and principled when he's trying to arrange moves for young talent out of this country.
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    What a waste of space.

    Read my signiture
    "Now jump up there and stuff that son of a bitch in the basket, chief"

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