Have fans been too harsh on the FAI?

[eekers]

It worked well, I think Brady should pick the manager again next time too.

[barney]

Criticisms of the process tend to be:

Why have a panel? It's not unusual to have a respected expert finding your manager. I remember the English FA getting Jimmy Armfield to choose Sven. Having 3 people is unusal but not astonishing.

Why have these 3 people? Admittedly they don;t set the world alight but then again we were unlikely to get Wenger to do it. If you exclude those working in the media (who didnt want to do it because it woudl compromise them) and those interested in the job the list is fairly small. In the end they werent going to be managing the team so I'm not sure it mattered.

The panel didnt pick Trapattoni. This seems valid though I don't think we have heard yet how it all came to pass. Someone obviously suggested Trap and contact was made via an agent. I woudlnt be surprised if he put his own name forward. But what should the FAI have done when his anme came up, say "We cant consider you because our panel havent identified you". A defintion of successful management is not letting the process get in the way of the goal.

It took too long. If the process had ended any time beofre a week ago, Venables would be the manager. I think early on the FAI decided they didnt want Venables and were lookgin for a more credible candidate. Even if they had identified Trapattoni in December, I think he would still not have started until May.

I don't like Delaney's hair. There is nor argument with this.

Good post but why do you think that the process took too long? By that I mean, why is 3-4 months too long?

[Ozymandias]

Regardless of whether he says the above, is the important thing not that we have gotten a top class manager? To be fair, the above post is indicative of the sort of bile that anyone who works for the FAI has to endure before they even do anything wrong.

Relax and rejoice. Us and the FAI are on the same side after all.

I obviosly missed something here...can you point out the bile to me in my previous post...thanks

[barney]

I obviosly missed something here...can you point out the bile to me in my previous post...thanks

More than the words used, it was the sentiment behind it.

[oconghc2]

the fai are still a joke of the highest order!! denis o brien paying for manager! don howe not even at the press conference because his son is home from the states! jesus wept!

[beautifulrock]

the fai are still a joke of the highest order!! denis o brien paying for manager! don howe not even at the press conference because his son is home from the states! jesus wept!

so what, get a grip

[barney]

the fai are still a joke of the highest order!! denis o brien paying for manager! don howe not even at the press conference because his son is home from the states! jesus wept!

Yeah it's totally ruined the appointment on me that Don Howe wasn't at the press conference. And accepting a donation? F**k me, how stupid are the FAI. They should have told O'Brien where to go and taken some of the money they have put into the eircom League or grassroots football to fund the manager. Idiots the lot of them.

[oconghc2]

i thnk it shows a slackness on howe's part - im sure he did ok out of his few weeks work - you wouldnt see it in any other professional organisation. that is all.

[beautifulrock]

i thnk it shows a slackness on howe's part - im sure he did ok out of his few weeks work - you wouldnt see it in any other professional organisation. that is all.

Fair point but sometimes if a tight deadline has to be met such as this then not all management are free to attend.

[Armando]

What I gathered from the press conference was that Givens used his contacts in Switzerland to get in touch with Trapattoni - so credit where credit is due, the panel did their job.

...the first mention of Brady was when Trapattoni himself contacted Brady to sound him out.

[Ozymandias]

More than the words used, it was the sentiment behind it.

sentiment..in three sentences..you should be on stage...just in case you don't get it from the words..that is sarcasm

[barney]

sentiment..in three sentences..you should be on stage...just in case you don't get it from the words..that is sarcasm

Very clever. You had a go at a guy for something that he didn't even do. In my book, that's small minded and a fine example of what holds us back. That you managed to do it in three sentences says quite a bit about you.

In can you don't get it, that isn't sarcasm.

[bohsRap]

the fai are still a joke of the highest order!! denis o brien paying for manager! don howe not even at the press conference because his son is home from the states! jesus wept!

What's wrong with that?

[Ozymandias]

Very clever. You had a go at a guy for something that he didn't even do. In my book, that's small minded and a fine example of what holds us back. That you managed to do it in three sentences says quite a bit about you.

Is the wrong answer again..try again...cause i sense in the sentiment of your post your are getting redder.....oh and personal for some reason

In can you don't get it, that isn't sarcasm.

try and have an individual thought as well and not mimic or copy others as much enjoy you tea..night night

[NeilMcD]

I think many people jumped the gun and slagged a process that they did not even know about or how it was workin but they were relying on info from journalists who we all saw today are bang out of order esp T'O'D.

Havin watched the conference and listend and watched what Houghton and Givens said, well I have far more time for these guys and respect in what they have done in this incidence. I still dont rate Givens as an U21 manager but that is another days work.

Des Cahill and T'O'D showed themselves up at the Press Conference to be nothing but bitter little fools who are only interested in concentratin on the negative rather than actually askin footballing questions.


If I was there there would have been a load of questions I would have asked about the footballing chat they had with Trap for 2 hours etc, rather than concetrating on the nonesense of Denis O Brien.

[barney]

Is the wrong answer again..try again...cause i sense in the sentiment of your post your are getting redder.....oh and personal for some reason



try and have an individual thought as well and not mimic or copy others as much enjoy you tea..night night

Didn't realise this was a quiz.

Not red at all my friend. You are either deliberately missing my point or we are on different wavelengths. Incidentally, I wasn't copying you, my post said the exact opposite of yours...

[Drumcondra 69er]

i thnk it shows a slackness on howe's part - im sure he did ok out of his few weeks work - you wouldnt see it in any other professional organisation. that is all.

Might be down to the fact that he wanted Venables for the job apparantly?

[NeilMcD]

T'O'D is a petty little man who would rather see the bad things in life rather than seeing the good. Whatever people may think about Denis O Brien. The fact that he is putting the money into Irish football which effectively is what he is doing, he is putting the money into Irish Grassroots football as that is what will happen to the money we would have spent on Trappatoni.

Also if we do well because of this the money will come back tenfold.

[pineapple stu]

Why have a panel? It's not unusual to have a respected expert finding your manager. I remember the English FA getting Jimmy Armfield to choose Sven. Having 3 people is unusal but not astonishing.

What experts did we have finding a manager?

I see no-one's echoed Roy Keane's comments that we've just gone four months without paying a senior manager, thereby saving about E300k.

[Ireland4ever]

What experts did we have finding a manager?

I see no-one's echoed Roy Keane's comments that we've just gone four months without paying a senior manager, thereby saving about E300k.

By Roy Keane, you do mean Mr. Rent-a-quote?