Quotewhats the point on opening a thread on this .. and less of the fat comments please
I think Trapattoni slagged off one of his waist once.
whats the point on opening a thread on this .. and less of the fat comments please
How many waists does he have?I think Trapattoni slagged off one of his waist once.
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Originally Posted by macdermesser
That's an_ceannaire's way. He's incapable of hitting the Reply button, when the New Topic button is so tempting.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/g...ture=332718463
like efforts 2 and 3 :-)
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
After the Wales game, I was walking through Croke Park to leave with the lads I went to the game with, Kerr was actually standing beside one of us. So he turns to Kerr and asks "well, what did you think of that Mr Kerr", "thought it was a load of sh!te" was his response. I resisted the urge to point out Stan had just beaten a team ranked far higher than any win he achieved in a competitive
Similar story in Cyprus after we were beaten, was talking to Kerr in the Step Inn afterwards and he wsa actually gloating "the comedy show continues" were his words or something similar. Unfortunately he has become very bitter since he lost the job, never man enough to admit he just wasnt upto it.
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Considering our previous performance in Cyprus, which was under Kerr, was every bit as bad but we somehow came out with a 1-0 win, it was a pretty stupid comment. The Cypriots could have just as easily beaten us by 5-2 in that game, as they eventually did under Staunton. You're absolutely right in stating that he's very bitter about the way he was treated. Without going into the rights and wrongs of the situation, he just needs to let it go.
Remember thinking exactly that watching the game when he was commentating. Had been over at the game the previous year and without Given we would have been well beaten. Apart from the penalty save he made numerous other vital saves. Have lost a lot of respect for Kerr due to his bitterness and inability to accept that his negativity against Israel (which cost us qualification, forget about that moment of magic from Henry, that should and could have been immaterial at that stage) and performances against the Swiss in both campaigns were what really had him fired.
I personally don't blame him for the Israel home game. We should have won the away game though. We played some bizarre tactics in that game, but I think we would have actually won the home game with a different referee and had the Israel team not blatanly cheated as much as they did. That game really riled me. It was the worst cheating I've ever seen in a game. However, the game that really, really disappointed me was the Swiss home game. It was a game that we were clearly capable of winning, and from the very first minute (whether it was down to the players or Kerr, I'll never know) we just didn't look up for that game.
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That's fair enough about Israel but the fact is the we were 2 up and coasting when Keane got injured and instead of replacing him with another striker (Elliot was on the bench and in decent form) he brought on Kavanagh and went 4-5-1. Closing the game out after 25 minutes! I know Duff went forward a bit more after the change but essentially he changed 3 positions (Kilbane out left, Kav in the middle and Duff slightly more central) when all we had to do was change one player. While we were readjusting they got back into the game, rank bad management for me. I agree about the cheating and was going spare on the day (that keeper!) but we were architects of our own downfall that day, their cheating shouldn't have mattered given that we were 2 up so early.
Last edited by Drumcondra 69er; 29/02/2008 at 3:10 PM.
damn i had forgotten about that, it been almost 3 years ago now, but you have just reminded me of it :evil:
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agree with every word of that , we could have run away 4-0 and then the group was a whole different story
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
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As I said before, I personally don't blame Kerr for that game. I think the games where the most blame lies with him are the away game against Israel and the home game against the Swiss. The tactics employed in the away game against Israel were poor IMO and in the Swiss game the players really seemed to lack drive. It just looked like a normal game as there was no urgency in our game play when we could have beaten the Swiss with a different attitude. I also agree more with his substitutions during the Israel home game than the Swiss game.
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Yeah - The trauma of that day has coming flooding back.
Couldn't make the game due to other commitments and watched it in a hotel bar that was already populated with a load of American tourists. I think they may have got a bit concerned about the local with his head in his hands, howling in dispair at the cruel, cruel sporting gods.
Somehow, when I'm at the game , its nowhere near as tortuous as to watch the horror unfold on telly.
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That was the worst substitution of ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate to think what some people may make of Trapattoni's substitutions.
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Ya thats very true, the emotions experience on tele are always far greater than those when watching on tele, i think its because when you are "there" you feel you have more control over the situation etc.....and therefore more control breeds confidence in the outcome leading to a more comfortable viewing, even though its completely false. Either that or its just a case of seeing the overal game gives you a more realistic viewing
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
Doubt very much he'd have made that change after 25 minutes. With 25 minutes to go certainly but that early in a game I don't think so. Fact is we had to re jig nearly a third of our outfield players because of that sub, that's where the main problem was.
Slight contradiction. Duff went up front and it stayed 4-4-2. The substitution didn't lose* us that game imo. We started off really well and after 18-20 minutes the tempo dropped completely. Israel's 2 best attacks came before Keane was taken off. A freak goal (header from outside the box) and a silly peno given away (after a miskick from Given) got their 2 goals. On overall play we deserved to win 5-0.
Last edited by eirebhoy; 29/02/2008 at 4:14 PM.
It could be that I'm psychic, I know what everybody is going to say on this subject or it could be that it's all been said umpteen times before.
Pity we have to wait so long to find out what Trap is going to do and have to suffer another tournament without us in the middle of it all.
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