'Exactly'... D'oh....Originally Posted by John83
It's not surplus. It's just resting in the account.
You can't spell failure without FAI
'Exactly'... D'oh....
Lads I think you are both making very good points and I am tending to agree with you both after reading each others posts. Sitting on the fence I think its called.
In Trap we trust
I take it you've never been involved in junior football, applied for a grant for your local club, watched the senior team train at Malahide Utd's fabulous grounds, atended an FAI coaching course, met a regional development officer, attended any of the 100+ internationals we play every year (more than England and their naked jerseys play) or do you think that money comes from the tooth fairy
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
No no. Don't get me wrong, Greenforever. I wasn't quoting you, I merely ask, and I ask again; Does Eircom's sponsorship of all levels of football stand or fall on whether they have their logo on the national team's shirt?
If the answer is no, by how much would the FAI lose if the shirt was logoless? Would they somehow make up the shortfall to a great degree if they increased the price of the sponsor-free shirt?
If the answer is yes, then it really is sad and pathetic. But then like I said, it's more the FAI's fault rather than Eircom's. The FAI built a rod for it's own back by allowing Opel on the shirts over 20 years ago and with every subsequent contract, they couldn't drop it.
The answer is NO but logosless shirts would drastically reduce the value of the sponsorship, and while Im not aware of the figures I trust Delaney in this regard that financially the FAI are far better off with the logo than without.
Why is it the FAI's fault to increase thier revenue stream, surely that is what they should be doing so as to provide as previously stated subsidised coaching courses, RDOs, all the junior internationals, the centres of excellence being developed throughout the country etc. I know they get a certain amount of state funding for this but they need to match this themselves.
While not a fan of the logo on a shirt I would prefer this and to see the positives Ive listed above.
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
Whilst they are right to try and increase revenue streams, it's the FAI's fault because sponsorship on the shirts should never have been on the table in the first place when seeking spnsorship. The likes of Finland, Slovenia, Wales, Northern Ireland etc. aren't exactly rolling in it but don't resort to this.
Besides, doesn't this create negative publicity for Eircom? I think it's safe to assume that the vast majority of Irish fans are - to put it mildly - resentful of their logo on the Ireland top.
If they want to keep the logo then the jerseys should be marked lower price as they aren't a replica of whats being worn on the pitch.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
I agree with you newry, only in ireland would this happen, *******ise ourselves for a couple of extra quid. Why werrent they as aware of the financial repercussions when they appointed stan? 800,000 in payout, and about 20 million in lost income by not getting to Euro 2008..Laughing stock! does any other nation in the whole world have a sponsor for their national football team in fairness, i doubt it very much!
'How can I hate women, my Mums one!!!' Chris Finch
You're contradicting yourself above.
What is the FAI's fault?
The reason the logo is on the shirt is money.
What does the FAI do with it's money and do we want the money or not.
As I've previously said we play far more internationals than any of the above mentioned teams, which is surely a positive thing for the game.
Which do you want the money from Eircom and the benefits or no money and no benfits?
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
Nationwide are the English FA sponsors!
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
are nationwide on the english replica shirts...its not a case of black or white GF! surely they can renegotiate the next contract without the logo on it?
'How can I hate women, my Mums one!!!' Chris Finch
Read what I said, it's the FAI's fault for allowing sponsorship on the shirt when it should never have been on the table in the first place.
As to whether I want the money from Eircom and the benefits or no money and no benefits, you said so yourself that Eircom's sponsorship doesn't hinge on them having their logo on the Ireland shirt. Surely something can be worked out if Nationwide pay far more to sponsor England and without this "perk"?
Two versions of the shirt is the obvious answer. A logoed verison to keep Eircom happy, and a dearer, sponsor-free one. Haven't adidas done this for the France shirt for the last few years? They sell a replica shirt, and also an "authentic player's" version that costs about £20 more.
See your the problem right here. Talk like a politician, bombard us with statistics and figures and fancy info all you like mate, bottom line, we want logo free shirts available to us. Like our team wears, like every other person in every other country on planet earth has with their national team.. Now stop giving excuses and trying to justify it..... It's wrong.. You really think all that you just said would come to an abrupt halt if the Eircom was removed from our shirt?? Get a grip man...
Last edited by Pike B; 01/04/2008 at 10:03 PM.
Not one other nation...
Just go out and buy the third kit without the sponsor! if everyone boycotts the home kit then the FAI will soon get the hint!
Amen... That'll teach the swines..
I think you will find a lot of people won't agree with you that the logo on the shirt should never have been on the table in the first place. Ask the thousands of volunteers in clubs throughout the country and I'm sure you will find just as many in support of the logo as against.
Why do you think Nationwide pay far more to sponsor England, would it be to do with a bigger population?
Two versions of the shirt may well be the answer if Eircom were to agree to it, or whoever replace Eircom when they pull out in a couple of years.
Incidentally the IRFU have O2 on thier shirts and the GAA have Coca Cola on the interantional rules shirts!
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
So you can't argue with reason so I'm the problem.
IT's pretty simple you can't spend what you don't have, if the FAI's revenue is reduced they have to reduce expenditure, and if I'm the cause of that fact please accept my apologies, while I go out and plant a few money trees
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
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