Minutes silence tonight

**Jerry The Saint** · 06/02/2008, 1:54 PM

Originally Posted by bohsRap

You know, that mysterious cult that hates all the premiership and all its players, especially the Irish ones!

Yep, some of them even support a team from a "pub league" rather than bow down before the mighty Liverpool or whoever.

**Denis The Red** · 06/02/2008, 2:18 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Munich and the Busby Babes have nothing to do with the nonsense that is the Premiership though so I can't see a problem. At worst there will be people like me who generally don't care about the Busby Babes story (sorry I don't) but wouldn't dream of breaking a minutes silence.

I don't think there's much you care about Jebus. How could anyone not be moved by that story?
I personally think a round of applause is more appropriate as it would not give the scum who would disrupt a silence any satisfaction and it would be a celebration of legends rather than a mourning at loss of life.

**Scram** · 06/02/2008, 2:31 PM

Who has the right to tell anyone that they should be silent for a minute for something that happened 50 years ago? This is about a corporate giant i.e Man Utd., nothing whatsoever to do with any Irish international. I'm sure a minutes silence 50 years after the guy's death will bring great comfort to the family.

This nonsense belittles the good intention of having a minutes silence close to the death of a player, fan etc. or of recent tragedies like the Navan school bus crash. Not something that happened 50 years ago even if it is in relation to the giant global entity. On the 100th anniversary, will Irish fans be asked to be silent for 2 minutes? What a fcukin joke.

How about a minutes silence for all the dying in Africa who would eat the scraps from Man Utd. fans prawn sandwiches etc. Get some perspective.

**Clifford** · 06/02/2008, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Petrov pulled out during the week, other than that I think it's a full strength squad

Stelian or Martin? I think Martin is playing. No relation, still no relation..

**Kingdom** · 06/02/2008, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by Clifford

Stelian or Martin? I think Martin is playing. No relation, still no relation..

Boom boom,

Still a poor book though.

**tetsujin1979** · 06/02/2008, 2:48 PM

Originally Posted by Clifford

Stelian or Martin? I think Martin is playing. No relation, still no relation..

sorry, should have specified, it's Stilian Petrov, out with concussion: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...111445,00.html

**Denis The Red** · 06/02/2008, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by Scram

Who has the right to tell anyone that they should be silent for a minute for something that happened 50 years ago?

No one is telling anyone what to do but if you feel the need to holler and make noise like an idiot then that's more a reflection of the type of person you are.
And to suggest not having a tribute for anything because of what's happening in Africa or because there are other tragedies that happened more recently is simply ignorant.

**ruben_sosa** · 06/02/2008, 3:21 PM

Originally Posted by Denis The Red

No one is telling anyone what to do but if you feel the need to holler and make noise like an idiot then that's more a reflection of the type of person you are.
And to suggest not having a tribute for anything because of what's happening in Africa or because there are other tragedies that happened more recently is simply ignorant.

if you care so much about a 'tribute' then go out to the mans grave in Glasnevin and lay some flowers, that's a much more symbolic gesture than standing in silence with a hot dog in yer hand for 60 seconds to 'remember' a man you never knew, never grew up watching, and never mourned.

**gustavo** · 06/02/2008, 3:27 PM

Theres a difference between not wanting to make a tribute to someone and respecting others wishes to have a dignified rememberance

**beautifulrock** · 06/02/2008, 3:53 PM

Originally Posted by gustavo

Theres a difference between not wanting to make a tribute to someone and respecting others wishes to have a dignified rememberance

This is the key point, I too have my doubts about the minutes silence and how it has come to pass but now that it has we should respect it. However, Wembley will be a different matter and the FA have take a gamble by going forward with it. Originally the FA wanted a minutes applause but were convinced by Man U to change to a minutes silence.

**backstothewall** · 06/02/2008, 7:42 PM

clapping a plane crash just seems odd

**jebus** · 07/02/2008, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Denis The Red

I don't think there's much you care about Jebus. How could anyone not be moved by that story?
I personally think a round of applause is more appropriate as it would not give the scum who would disrupt a silence any satisfaction and it would be a celebration of legends rather than a mourning at loss of life.

WTF? A bunch of people I don't know died 50 years ago in a plane crash and I'm meant to give a **** because I like football? How many people I don't know have died in plane crashes since then? Should I honour their memory aswell?

Oh and how could I not be moved by their story? Well I read quite a bit, just read a short story about life of a displaced African girl who was caught up in the Ethopian drought and almost starved to death and was quite moved by that. Someone having the misfortune of being on that plane isn't a particularly moving story in my eyes

**Rebel11** · 07/02/2008, 7:49 AM

What kind of Muppet are you? What is wrong with remembering one of the Greatest players that this Island has ever had, and all the young men who lost their lives on that night, They were all football men i dont see what your problrm is.

**Scram** · 07/02/2008, 7:55 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

WTF? A bunch of people I don't know died 50 years ago in a plane crash and I'm meant to give a **** because I like football? How many people I don't know have died in plane crashes since then? Should I honour their memory aswell?

Oh and how could I not be moved by their story? Well I read quite a bit, just read a short story about life of a displaced African girl who was caught up in the Ethopian drought and almost starved to death and was quite moved by that. Someone having the misfortune of being on that plane isn't a particularly moving story in my eyes

That's called "perspective" my friend, something which most on here are sadly lacking.

**Ireland4ever** · 07/02/2008, 8:08 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

WTF? A bunch of people I don't know died 50 years ago in a plane crash and I'm meant to give a **** because I like football? How many people I don't know have died in plane crashes since then? Should I honour their memory aswell?

Oh and how could I not be moved by their story? Well I read quite a bit, just read a short story about life of a displaced African girl who was caught up in the Ethopian drought and almost starved to death and was quite moved by that. Someone having the misfortune of being on that plane isn't a particularly moving story in my eyes

As a wise man once said if you dont have anything good to say dont bother saying anything i.e shut up jebus.

**ifk101** · 07/02/2008, 8:15 AM

Disappointing to read some of the comments and talk of perspective.

Perspective is the realisation that you were asked to give up 30 seconds of your time to make a small gesture, i.e. a gesture that took less time for you to log in and write your comment.

**citizenerased** · 07/02/2008, 9:24 AM

Originally Posted by Ireland4ever

As a wise man once said if you dont have anything good to say dont bother saying anything i.e shut up jebus.

Was that wiseman you I4E.? jEBUS shut up..i take it you didnt get your dose of attention last night..sure ya dont even support ireland!

**John83** · 07/02/2008, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Greenforever

The minutes silence (which is not mentioned on the FAI website - shock suprise

) will as always be impeccably observed. Might not be the same at Wembley.

If there is a minutes silence it should be introduced as for ALL the victims and not just Liam Wheelan.

Originally Posted by reder

Dont think it will be at Wembley due to that fact that the ground will be full of southerners (Chelsea/Millwall/West Ham spring to mind) and I am worried that the anti-PL bridage here could do the same.

Some mouth-breather behind me somewhere called "not bloody enough of them" when the PA called out the number who died in Munich. His friends laughed and cheered.

That was the shortest, least silent minute's silence I've ever attended.

Originally Posted by ifk101

Disappointing to read some of the comments and talk of perspective.

Perspective is the realisation that you were asked to give up 30 seconds of your time to make a small gesture, i.e. a gesture that took less time for you to log in and write your comment.

Millions of people are dying of starvation as you sit down to your lunch. Hundreds of millions of people right now have no access to clean water, feck-all to modern medicine, next to none to education. Some (pretty smart) people think the ice caps are melting and we're in for massive flooding and extremely violent weather which will lead to massive displacement of populations, famine and drought in my lifetime. You're writing on an internet forum about football. Your 'perspective' is for idiots.

**Billsthoughts** · 07/02/2008, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by John83

Some mouth-breather behind me somewhere called "not bloody enough of them" when the PA called out the number who died in Munich. His friends laughed and cheered.

That was the shortest, least silent minute's silence I've ever attended.

morons....an anouncement in portugese wouldnt have gone astray. and ejection of any morons shouting stuff like the above.

**jbyrne** · 07/02/2008, 11:52 AM

if a former Irish player from a famous Irish footballing familly cannot be remembered at an Irish football occasion with a bit of dignity then its all up for us really

some of the remarks on here are pathetic beyond words. me thinks there are a lot of bitter people around with petty hatreds that most of us have grown out of (or indeed never had)