QuoteDon't think they knew what was going on to be honest.Originally Posted by gilberto_eire
Did anyone think the Brazilian's were disrespectful enough towards the silence?. Was more then a handful who did'nt observe it either!!
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Don't think they knew what was going on to be honest.
That was my take on it too. Probably worth keeping in mind for the future - have a pre-recorded announcement in the away team's language about the silence.
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The Brazilians didn't observe it but there was plenty of fools in the Irish crowd at it as well. Disgrace tbh
Spot on. If it was 30 seconds long, I'd be very surprised. The Brazillians were still in party mode after the bouncy national anthem vibe they had going on. A quick translated announcement , or flashing the Potuguese for "A minutes silence for the deceased" up on the screens would have done the trick, and shouldn't really have been beyond the FAI....
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
Oh well said. You must feel good about yourself.
The minute's silence was a simple and small gesture - nothing more, nothing less.
But young idle minds do wander ...
Who said I didn't respect it? In fact I said in my first comment that I wouldn't dream of breaking a minutes silence, I just said I don't really give a toss about people I don't know who died 50 years ago, sorry but I don't, and the chest thumpers came out in force again with their usual hilarious putdowns
In fairness now id say a lot of them were living here or else close by in europe.
Also i don't see any reason why they could'nt tell it was a minutes silence, anyone with half a brian could see what was happening as its a common enough occurance in football. If we were in brazil would we really need an announcement in english to know what was going on?. Not at all!!
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Apologies. It wasn't your post(s) my comments were directed at.
Perfectly understandable that people question the need for the minute's silence. But do we need to quote Robert Frederick Xenon Geldof to voice our displeasure??
Of course a lot of them were from here or close by. That's pretty much a given. However , going on media reports, and those Brazilian supporters we were chatting to on the way, a huge amount of the kids there had never been to an International football game before in their lives, and even if they had, (no mattter where they live - Brazil, here, Portugal or elsewhere) we'd do well to remember that English is not their first language. (And the brand of English spoken by the FAI announcer is only a tentative relation to the one spoken by everyone else anyway...)
So whether they brought the top half of Brian, or the bottom half of Brian, a courtesy announcement in Portugese would have gone a long way to maintaining the minutes silence.
As I said earlier, they were very much in a party mood (very welcome in what was otherwise a very subdued Corporate / kindergarden Croker btw) and were still whooping and cheering when the stumbling, hesitant, rather garbled announcement was made over the tannoy.
Had an authoritive voice said the same in their own language, I dobt their initial ruckus would have been an issue, as many quietened down when they realised what was actually happening.
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
I'm suprised he didnt mention eircom when annoncing the silence
Didn't see the game and don't have any opinion on the matter, but anyone who's ever followed football (live or otherwise) knows and would recognise the protocol for a minutes' silence.
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Aye. I agree, they would. And the vast majority pretty much did, when they realised what was happening. A quick word over the tannoy in Portuguese before the silence may have made a difference to those who were dancing with their backs to the pitch, in fairness.
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
Did a few people try to get "applause" going instead of the silence at the start?
Personally I think the silence is more respectful than the applause although given the lowlife mentality of some people in the world, its probably better to have applause in some situations which they can't ruin.
aye , and so are you.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
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The difference is, I'm not yapping on about perspective to someone who is understandably not terribly moved by two dozen deaths fifty years ago when that many punters will have died in road accidents since November.
If people want to have a minutes silence, let them. If they don't care, but stay quiet at the time anyway, who is he to whine about their 'perspective'.
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The Brazilians aren't to blame, once they realised what was going on they shut up.
The ref blowing up after ten seconds was the real culprit. It's a MINUTE'S silence.
Plus, obviously, an announcement in Portugese would have helped considerably.
i think the reason he might have cut it short was due to the fact that the kick off was already running almost 10 minutes late.......but he should still have observed the full minute
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Did anyone hear someone talking on a megaphone during it? I thought I heard that.
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Being brutally honest I didn't see the need for a minutes silence either. Looking at the general age profile of the people at the game, I doubt if many gave a toss about the busby babes. I certainly don't. The story doesn't move me, I do not relate to it and I don't think it has anything to do with Irish football. And I do not consider Liam Whelan a 'legend' of Irish soccer either. I don't know about you lot, but 4 caps does not herald legend status for me. His death was a tragedy yes, but Munich is a Manchester United tragedy, not an Irish one. A few Irish and 2G fans died at Hillsborough. Are we going to have a minutes silence for them every year now as well, seeing that it was a far greater tragedy? Irishman died at Heysel as well, will we honour that too?
I respected the minutes silence on Wednesday, but I didn't necessarily agree with it. I thought it was hollow and not really necessary. A bit like overly religious parents dragging their teenage children to mass, when the latter have absolutely no interest at all and just go through the motions.....
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