Andy O'Brien

**NeilMcD** · 04/02/2008, 9:29 AM

Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

which is relevant how?

Cause Weir came back and played under another manager i.e. Walter Smith, so if O Brien was annoyed and being messed about and getting the blame, well guess what we will have a new manager in soon and Staunton is gone.

So it is relevant cause there is precedent with another country

**Billsthoughts** · 04/02/2008, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Cause Weir came back and played under another manager i.e. Walter Smith, so if O Brien was annoyed and being messed about and getting the blame, well guess what we will have a new manager in soon and Staunton is gone.

So it is relevant cause there is precedent with another country

Scotland isnt a country tho...

**boovidge** · 04/02/2008, 9:32 AM

yeah 'tis

**Billsthoughts** · 04/02/2008, 9:33 AM

no 'tisn't

**NeilMcD** · 04/02/2008, 9:40 AM

Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

no 'tisn't

for the point of international football it is it has an international team and this is a football thread so your point might be more relevant in off topic.

**Billsthoughts** · 04/02/2008, 9:44 AM

**NeilMcD** · 04/02/2008, 9:44 AM

Yeah I think you are, you should go to shrink bill, I think you need to get over your stalking problem.

**Billsthoughts** · 04/02/2008, 9:47 AM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Yeah I think you are, you should go to shrink bill, I think you need to get over your stalking problem.

Maybe its because I am such a keen fan of your posts that I noticed your unusual ability to get a Sctoland reff into any thread regardless of the topic.

**NeilMcD** · 04/02/2008, 9:50 AM

Yeah you need help Bill but anyway this does not have much to do with Andy O Brien.

**Stuttgart88** · 04/02/2008, 9:54 AM

Andrew is a Scottish name.

**Billsthoughts** · 04/02/2008, 9:58 AM

Its actually the Gaelicised version of the old Azerbaijani "Andzerzki"....

**John83** · 04/02/2008, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Andrew is a Scottish name.

Robbie and Richard are Germanic and Damian is Greek.

28? For shame, Andy, you coward.

**elroy** · 04/02/2008, 10:12 AM

Andys playing well at the moment and arguably is first choice alongside Dunne. Hopefully he'll return when the new manager comes back. Retiring at 28 is a joke though.

**dr_peepee** · 04/02/2008, 10:18 AM

The timing raises questions? Has he heard something in terms of an appointment I wonder??

I can understand the bitterness, but lads, Don Givens and Delaney represent everything that wrong with the set up. Givens constantly overlooks form players at underage level in Garvan and McCann and now Morrison, gets involved in childish media rows with players like Ireland, Connolly, McCann, is so unproffesional that he announces a players retirement before he's even confirmed it with the player inquestion.. I could go on. And Delaney, with his persistent deflection of accountabililty and responsibility..

And we expect player to jepardise the club careers to carry these clowns for our sake... I'm sorry lads, but I wouldn't do it. These are the same dopes who up until a few years ago travelled first class and left the players in steerage.. The whole lot needs a shake up.

**brine3** · 04/02/2008, 11:29 AM

Nothing has changed.

**Torn-Ado** · 04/02/2008, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rob_the_cat

They're retiring at 28 now. Only 2 more years to put up with Sheasie so;-)! Seriously I'll always remember Andy for giving Dudo Aouate a nosebleed. Much better comic value than Cyprus.

There was nothing funny that day.

**jmurphyc** · 04/02/2008, 2:27 PM

I only just found this out now. Has it actually been confirmed by a reputable news source? I can't seem to find anything other than the links posted on this thread. If so, it's a massive loss as he is IMO currently our second best centre back. I wonder whether there's more to it than this. Maybe he was told he wouldn't be playing against Brazil and got ****ed off at not being given a chance. Whatever the reason though, it doesn't excuse retiring at the age of 28. Other than McShane, who I don't feel is quite ready yet, we really don't have anyone anywhere near to international class that can take his place.

**cornerflag** · 04/02/2008, 2:30 PM

Givens has said today that he has not heard from Andy so has called Alex Bruce into the squad to replace him. Its a strange one

�I haven�t been able to make any contact with Andy O�Brien, so I�ve called in Alex Bruce and he�ll arrive in this afternoon,� said Givens.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=2833

**bohsRap** · 04/02/2008, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by cornerflag

Givens has said today that he has not heard from Andy so has called Alex Bruce into the squad to replace him. Its a strange one

�I haven�t been able to make any contact with Andy O�Brien, so I�ve called in Alex Bruce and he�ll arrive in this afternoon,� said Givens.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=2833

Saw that earlier and thought maybe he hadn't retired but hadn't bother making the trip either without any communication being made. Givens might of been ****ed off and so said "Yeh Andy's retired". If so some serious questions need to be answered by Givens!

**Morbo** · 04/02/2008, 3:28 PM

You would think that anyone with a shread of self respect would not want that Cyprus game to be their last game for Ireland, talk about going out with a whimper. This retiring from internationals is getting more and more ridiculous, 28 is just taking the ****, many if not most defenders peak after 28

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