AIL Update

**EalingGreen** · 05/03/2008, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by paudie

Yeah. They'd better remember not to play any AIL games in Scandinavia during the winter or the whole thing is doomed

You miss my point. UEFA, through the offices of the IFA and FAI, will likely have very firm views on what such a League may or may not do. Therefore, they are liable and able to impose certain conditions before it will get their "blessing", including entry to CL, UEFA Cup and Inter-toto.

Therefore, it is possible that they may impose conditions which affect, or even prevent, the viability of the proposed new League. Alternatively, they may demand for the two Associations a level of authority and/or involvement which is not acceptable to the new League's proponents.

P.S. I don't really imagine that UEFA might require games to be played in Scandinavia in either winter or summer. Did you?

**HarpoJoyce** · 05/03/2008, 9:59 PM

Originally Posted by EalingGreen

You miss my point. UEFA, through the offices of the IFA and FAI, will likely have very firm views on what such a League may or may not do. Therefore, they are liable and able to impose certain conditions before it will get their "blessing", including entry to CL, UEFA Cup and Inter-toto.

Therefore, it is possible that they may impose conditions which affect, or even prevent, the viability of the proposed new League. Alternatively, they may demand for the two Associations a level of authority and/or involvement which is not acceptable to the new League's proponents.

P.S. I don't really imagine that UEFA might require games to be played in Scandinavia in either winter or summer. Did you? :rolleyes:

I appreciate what you mean but....

The AIL League League could do a 13th (Thirteenth) game swap with the Scandinavians. In both cultures it's an unlucky number.

For Scandinavians an unlucky Damien Richardson/Dermot Keely type character arrives late at the Christmas party ..or something. Anyway., it all ends in tears, its very very sad...I cried when I heard it first.

**exiled_gufc_fan** · 08/03/2008, 10:57 AM

In Friday's City Tribune, Nick Leeson reckons an All Ireland League is "inevitable".

http://www.galwaynews.ie/3049-all-ir...le-says-leeson

**passerrby** · 08/03/2008, 3:20 PM

the way them idiots run the league at the moment they are chasing clubs into the arms of platium one

**jebus** · 11/03/2008, 10:44 AM

Apparantly Limerick are being invited to the top table of the AIL, according to the rag that is the Indo anyway. If it's true then that's as much of a joke as Galway getting 'promoted' two years ago. I said it then and I'll say it now, that's not what football should be about, and will only heighten people's suspicions that LoI is a jokeshop

**Mr A** · 11/03/2008, 10:58 AM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...k-1313193.html

Yep, it's franchise football. Like I said before- Platinum One is about money, nothing else.

**cudsy1** · 11/03/2008, 11:03 AM

all this is dodgy as fook

**EalingGreen** · 11/03/2008, 1:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...k-1313193.html

Yep, it's franchise football. Like I said before- Platinum One is about money, nothing else.

And being franchise-based, there's no room/need for Promotion and Relegation. Instead, any expansion will surely come from Invitation to anyone who is prepared to put up the money to buy a new franchise, or to replace any team which drops out. (Presumably these latter would only do so for financial reasons i.e. going bust, rather than footballing reasons, since no matter how uncompetitive on the pitch, they wouldn't fear relegation).

I'm not averse to the idea of an AIL in principle, but if this is the model, then the sooner someone ties it in a bag and dumps it in the canal the better!

**passerrby** · 11/03/2008, 2:53 PM

Originally Posted by EalingGreen

I'm not averse to the idea of an AIL in principle, but if this is the model, then the sooner someone ties it in a bag and dumps it in the canal the better!

well said that man..methinks the wheels on the derry/st pats superbus are coming off

**GavinZac** · 11/03/2008, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Apparantly Limerick are being invited to the top table of the AIL, according to the rag that is the Indo anyway. If it's true then that's as much of a joke as Galway getting 'promoted' two years ago. I said it then and I'll say it now, that's not what football should be about, and will only heighten people's suspicions that LoI is a jokeshop

Limerick 37 bypassed how many divisions to slot right into the first division? is that any less franchise football than the selections the FAI made recently or any inclusion of limerick in an AIL?

**Lim till i die** · 11/03/2008, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

Limerick 37

Happens all the time in Italy.

Build a bridge Gav, etc. etc.

**jebus** · 11/03/2008, 3:10 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

Limerick 37 bypassed how many divisions to slot right into the first division? is that any less franchise football than the selections the FAI made recently or any inclusion of limerick in an AIL?

Run along Gavin no-one cares

**passerrby** · 11/03/2008, 3:15 PM

when did limerick get a bypass

**Lim till i die** · 11/03/2008, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by passerrby

when did limerick get a bypass

Coming in 2011 I believe.

Watch. This. Space.

**GavinZac** · 11/03/2008, 3:20 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Run along Gavin no-one cares

No really, how is this selection process different from the one performed recently by the FAI or the one that allowed L37 entry to the ELOI? Why is one franchise football and the other (arguably) not?

**Lim till i die** · 11/03/2008, 3:23 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

Limerick 37 bypassed how many divisions to slot right into the first division?

To answer your question: None.

At the time the First Division was the lowest rung on the LoI pyramid.

Happens all the time in Italy.

Build a bridge Gav, etc. etc.

**jebus** · 11/03/2008, 3:27 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

No really, how is this selection process different from the one performed recently by the FAI or the one that allowed L37 entry to the ELOI? Why is one franchise football and the other (arguably) not?

What LtiD said, now will you run along?

**passerrby** · 11/03/2008, 3:28 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

No really, how is this selection process different from the one performed recently by the FAI or the one that allowed L37 entry to the ELOI? Why is one franchise football and the other (arguably) not?

the fai although appearing incompatant at times is about inclusion while the platinum one is about exclusion

**GavinZac** · 11/03/2008, 3:35 PM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

To answer your question: None.

At the time the First Division was the lowest rung on the LoI pyramid.

Pyramid?

Anyway, this would be the lowest rung on the AIL pyramid, if things posted above are to be believed. Not that I approve of any such developments as teams being picked purely for their geographic location, but it is strange to see someone who has benefit from such in the recent past to complain this without recognising the equivalent "elitism" or "exclusion" of the ELOI.