Stephen Ireland

**kingdomkerry** · 10/04/2009, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by bellavistaman

PR stunt are you for real ffs take your head out of your hole and give the lad a break. Fair play to him. A legend im my opinion

I think your the one who needs to take your head out of your hole mate.

To call that tosser a legend is farcical. He would'nt lace the boots of Ireland legends like paul mcgrath.

His scum of the earth for refusing to play for his country and not giving a reason why not.

**gustavo** · 10/04/2009, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by kingdomkerry

I think your the one who needs to take your head out of your hole mate.

To call that tosser a legend is farcical. He would'nt lace the shoelaces of Ireland legends like paul mcgrath.

His scum of the earth for refusing to play for his country and not giving a reason why not.

You obviously rate him highly seeing as you're always on here venting your spleen with insults against him , He's not playing for us , I wouldn't call him a traitor it's disappointing and I'm sure he'll live to regret it , Scum of the earth is surely an over reaction

**osarusan** · 10/04/2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by kingdomkerry

He would'nt lace the shoelaces of Ireland legends like paul mcgrath.

You can't lace shoelaces

**�ire �g** · 11/04/2009, 12:48 AM

Jesus wept....

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**cartman** · 11/04/2009, 3:00 AM

Originally Posted by kingdomkerry

I think your the one who needs to take your head out of your hole mate.

To call that tosser a legend is farcical. He would'nt lace the shoelaces of Ireland legends like paul mcgrath.

His scum of the earth for refusing to play for his country and not giving a reason why not.

im sorry kingdomkerry, but you are comparing stephen ireland to paul mcgrath in a negative way!! did paul mcgrath not walk out on ireland due to his drinking also, which was never looked on so hysterically by irish fans..

you are being both immature and irresponsible saying such things about stephen ireland - i have no doubt in years to come he will turn out to be a great irish player and will be then be fondly remembered by irish fans..

let me ask if paul mcgrath was not such a superb player, would he not have been castigated by the irish public when he walked out on the squad??

**geysir** · 11/04/2009, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by gustavo

You obviously rate him highly seeing as you're always on here venting your spleen with insults against him , He's not playing for us , I wouldn't call him a traitor it's disappointing and I'm sure he'll live to regret it , Scum of the earth is surely an over reaction

Just because he might possibly live to regret it does not mean that people can not have strong opinions about the actions now.
If you leave this thread wide open in the Ireland forum, posters are always going to come and vent spleen however irrational. Those are the opinions SI attracts.
This thread is a festering wound in this forum.

**gustavo** · 11/04/2009, 10:36 AM

If people stop posting in it , it will disappear off the front page

**geysir** · 11/04/2009, 2:33 PM

.......If......

**strangeirish** · 11/04/2009, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ciaran

Censoring discussion of a popular relevant topic on a discussion forum, brilliant idea........

Who said anything about censoring?

**SUB of the day** · 11/04/2009, 4:53 PM

Originally Posted by bellavistaman

PR stunt are you for real ffs take your head out of your hole and give the lad a break. Fair play to him. A legend im my opinion

Throw the toys from the pram when bold Mr Kerr doesn't pick you on team for Daddy to see you.Announce the death of Granny in Cobh ( news to her), announce the death of Granny in London ( news to her also).Accept and never repay FAI for private jet.Walk away from your country, but never say never like.Legend my arse!

**bellavistaman** · 11/04/2009, 5:16 PM

Imagine a player in your home town promised captaincy in front of us all, and dropped. Why? Because hes the most talented player on the team? Kerrs a muppet, nearly ruined a career before it even started. The talent he has, the way hes played so far, the strike rate hes achieved for the country is superb, the granny thing is regretable but god knows what was going on in his head, his girlfriend had a abortion, he could have went out and played and played terribly or do the right thing get home to his family, the way he went back was terrible, ill be the first to admit it, but build a bloody bridge, he said hes got death threats, would you go to work if nobody wanted you there, do the likes of don givens and liam brady and these muppets who threaten his life, do these people make him feel welcome as long as this hatred continues and senior management in the fai keep harping on hows he public villian no.1 i dont blame him for staying away!! Think we might never have a player of his talent again its a football team afterall and we wont forgive the "grannygate" incident! Unbelievable, you should be made welcome if your good enough, if he's a tosser so be it, he maybe half mad but on the pitch hes a model pro has NEVER let ireland down ON the field in fact hes been quiet heroic.

Clearly he needs pampering which mark hughes gives him why cant we attempt it, paul mcgrath was so good we got on with the flaws, why cant we with stephen ireland i said it last year i'l say it again he has the potential to be a world class player. Is he not worth it, he could be the difference between getting to a world cup and not, and more iportantly having a great world cup and not!!

**SkStu** · 11/04/2009, 5:21 PM

there is one fatal flaw in your argument there bvm, he is such an Irish legend he wont pick up the phone and say he's back if we want him. Thats all it would take and he cant find it in himself to do it.

**bellavistaman** · 11/04/2009, 5:40 PM

Ya but could you seriously say with all the hatred following here in ireland you could blame him for not wanting to come back?

**SkStu** · 11/04/2009, 5:43 PM

its a major character flaw that the guy hasnt got the cojones to man up and put everything behind him and come back to the squad. You talk about Irish fans building bridges, the same applies to him.

**bellavistaman** · 11/04/2009, 5:46 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

its a major character flaw that the guy hasnt got the cojones to man up and put everything behind him and come back to the squad. You talk about Irish fans building bridges, the same applies to him.

Fiar enough i can accept that, nice to have a sensible arguement on this topic. Good man!!

**SkStu** · 11/04/2009, 5:48 PM

ditto. I also agree that the Irish team would be far better with him in it. But it really is up to him at this stage.

**Emmet7** · 11/04/2009, 5:54 PM

Not only is the ball in Stephen Ireland's court, but there are many many balls in Stephen Ireland's court, all sent there by the Irish management team. The more you go after Stephen Ireland, the more he resists, so it's best just to ignore him and let him come back if he wants to.

The issue is out of the Irish managements hands, its now in Stephen Irelands hands...but really its all time we forgot about Stephen Ireland coming back to play for us...the door is always open, he had his chance and he has turned it down...his loss not ours.

Give me an honest hard working committed Whelan, Gibson, etc any day to a player who couldn't be bothered.

**bellavistaman** · 11/04/2009, 7:19 PM

Originally Posted by Emmet7

Give me an honest hard working committed Whelan, Gibson, etc any day to a player who couldn't be bothered.

Seriously? Sure ill play so!!

**Stuttgart88** · 12/04/2009, 9:01 AM

Originally Posted by bellavistaman

Seriously? Sure ill play so!!

Are you as good as them? I'll take a wild punt and say no.

**bellavistaman** · 12/04/2009, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Are you as good as them? I'll take a wild punt and say no.

Your moneys safe.

But he didnt mention the key word TALENT, we need talented players we have too many "honest" players, i do like whelan to be fair, but whelan and andrew is a big no no for me, one or the other.