QuoteAre you still owned by that hedge fund?Originally Posted by GavinZac
Not a chance of getting 2m, but this is about right. 900k-1m would be a good deal, particularly if Cork could get something like 10-20% sell-on clause included
Are you still owned by that hedge fund?
The point being, we dont have to get rid of him. The money he would/could make us by staying in prize money etc in the next 3 seasons, means we have very little reason to be looking to get rid. He'l be just as good with 6 months left on his contract and we'l take the half a million then....
The lad has a good head on his shoulders, has turned down offers in England before and has no interest in returning unless the club and contract is right. He wants to win stuff and we want him to stay and help us do so.
So as of now, we have no interest in selling him.
Now if someone did come in with a huge offer, upward of 1million, of course we'd then consider it. But as it stands both sides are happy with the way things are going.
Yeah, Arkaga
Ask for 3 million and drop to 2, thats the way to go
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Anybody know if he has any release clauses in his contract?
How do you know your view is aligned with that of those running your club?
You also ignore the present value of money, which in the current climate is huge as discount rates are rocketing.
Also the bit in bold is a large gamble, not fact.
My point is that its nowhere near as clear cut as decision as you make out.
Transfer fees have definitely increased recently but the two guiding principles have stayed the same:
1) its hard for EL clubs to turn down cash; and
2) many more players fail than make it in England.
I dont. But I do know that their main objective at the moment is to increase crowds. The way to do this is by having an entertaining and winning team. If we lose Dave, we haven't a hope of wining anything
True
Having watched him now for a few months, he is a young player who is constantly improving. He is very dedicated and hard working. Barring a serious injury, which yes is a gamble, he will keep getting better.
I wasnt trying to make out that it was clear cut, I was trying to say that both sides have said he's going nowhere, we're screwed in footballing terms if we lose him.
The prize money available plus the bigger crowds the better we play would be worth more in the 3 seasons than under a million now imo. Maye the owners disagree but I would be absolutely shocked if he left for anything under a million.
This is a presumptiom. While I agree all EL clubs need the money, saying that Arkaga would find it hard to turn down the cash may not be true. Given that none of us know exactly why they're involved(its hardly for the profit they're making right now,, or imagined profit by selling players) there may be a lot more to it.
Thats the problem of the team buying him. If they dont want to offer the money then grand. I honestly think we'l win the league next season if we keep him. Id imagine the owners would expect the same.
I think the money he could make us in the time he's here would make it worth keeping him.
These are the same people who negotiated the deal for O Donovan. They payed hardball with Fulham then and got a great deal in the end. Id expect no different here
Off Topic I know but if the Transfer rumours of Doyle to Sunderland are true, wouldn't you be entitled to some money there? I seem to remember somebody on here saying that there was a Sell-On clause included in the deal that took Doyle to Reading. Somebody said a figure of 20%...
Definitely 20, maybe 25%.
As for Mooney,
Keane is on the case . . . . . how predictable.
At least him and his pub-owner consortium could be thrifty enough to be weeded out of a million sterling.
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
Care to quote precedent that goes wider than Kevin Doyle?
See above re the fact (and there are precious little of those in this thread) that the majority of EL transfers to England have failed to live up to their potential.
He's only worth the most clubs will pay for him.
I'd pay two mill for him if i had to but I don't think any club would need to.
If e1.2m is offered Arkaga will have to ask themselves can we make 1.2m out of keeping him.
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
Anyone know if Longford Town would be due anything if Mooney is sold on by Cork?
Nope, he was released along with the other players from Longford.
Your Chairperson,
Gavin
Membership Advisory Board
"Ex Bardus , Vicis"
5% of any potential transfer fee will be distributed to all clubs that Mooney has played for since the age of 12.
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...d=29&Itemid=44
He was with Longford Town for three seasons so they would get 30% of the 5%, which is 1.5% of any future transfer fee. Rovers and whatever schoolboy clubs Mooney played for would also be due something as well.
Well yeah that's the case for every transfer, but I think he meant in terms of a contractual transfer clause the likes of which we have on doyle, bennett and o'donovan.
Your Chairperson,
Gavin
Membership Advisory Board
"Ex Bardus , Vicis"
are you sure? im sure when i read the papers that he went for 25k or maybe i have taken it up wrong??
Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?
Afaik that was a development fee because he was u23. He was out of contract
Mooney wasnt released by Longford
Nor did Cork pay a transfer fee for him
His contract was up - so he was a free agent
This was the case with all Longford players - with the exception of Daire Doyle, he had a year to go on a two year contract
Yes Mooney's contract was up but Longford were owed money as micls says for a development fee as we'd had him for over two seasons and he was still under 23 under the regulations, the clubs agreed a figure of 25k to save it going to a tribunal and because we wanted the money in as quick as possible. With a tribunal it can take ages before you actually receive the money. Previous examples of this include Shels not paying for Cawley for about a year and Drogs taking months to pay us the 10k we were awarded for Gartland. Cork paid up promptly and in one sum apparently.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
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