Steve Staunton

**Ozymandias** · 04/02/2008, 1:43 PM

don't let it bother you..he is only emptying his head...not much left now

**jebus** · 04/02/2008, 1:59 PM

He got the Leeds Assistant Manager job today as well

**Sonic** · 04/02/2008, 2:08 PM

They must be desperate so!!!

**Denis The Red** · 04/02/2008, 2:20 PM

Originally Posted by Sonic

They must be desperate so!!!

A little harsh I think. I don't think he should have been offered the Irish job in the first place. The FAI promised a world class manager and gave us Stan.
If anyone was offered the job, regardless of experience they would have taken it and have the confidence to be a success.
I was as happy as anyone when they got rid if him but only because the job should not have been his first and it should with his lack of management know how.
Who knows in a few years he could be a competent mananger.

**OwlsFan** · 04/02/2008, 2:55 PM

Originally Posted by aidz1

I would be pleased for Stan if he gets the job at leeds.
sincerly hope he does well. He did poorly as a manager with us but he's a decent bloke who was a great servant to Ireland. Best of luck with the job stan

I agree but he should keep his mouth shut about the new Irish manager and stick to Leeds. He knew the Irish mentality and players only too well and see where that got him? "Bye bye" by mutual consent.

**Stuttgart88** · 04/02/2008, 2:58 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

"Bye bye" by mutual consent.

I don't think it was mutual!

**Ireland4ever** · 04/02/2008, 4:04 PM

any chance of another thread on stan?

**paul_oshea** · 04/02/2008, 4:06 PM

you have to have a certain level of astuteness, cuteness and intelligence to be a good manager, im not sure how many of those staunton possesses. I heard him on sky sports news yesterday. He is terrible.

**OwlsFan** · 04/02/2008, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I don't think it was mutual!

The Official Statement said it was.

**Ireland4ever** · 04/02/2008, 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ciaran

One thing I would say about Stan is what he did after the Cyprus match. He was cornered, the honeymoon was over and was staring down not just elimination after 3 matches but the sack as he went to face the Czechs.

He responded so well, he swallowed his pride and called up Carsley, he ignored that clown Robson and picked Paul McShane who he believed in. Those were two key decisions that I think most managers wouldn't have made and I think if it wasn't for those two decisions we'd have been eliminated after 3 games.

He had a lot of balls too. Taking Duff off when they were chasing Germany, not being intimidated by Liam Miller, playing Andy Reid in the centre, some nice ideas like the American trip for youngsters or the Portugal training facility. Bringing Terry Dixon into the spotlight so early. He was in many ways an exciting and ambitious manager.

The point is that he's got ability, he made far more mistakes than he did positive contributions that's for sure but isn't that what experience rectifies? He certainly could be a fantastic manager some day.

If he had half a brain he would have had carsley in the squad before this match, and as for McShane, he was forced into picking him because of injuries, dont let time cloud your judgement on this cretin. It wasnt enough for him to make a laughing stock of our national team, but he then proceeded to rob from its coffers and its future by squirming for a severance fee, if he was any sort of man he would have done what keegan did and hold his hands up and say he wasnt good enough, walk away and do the best to help irish football.

**Jicked** · 04/02/2008, 4:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ciaran

One thing I would say about Stan is what he did after the Cyprus match. He was cornered, the honeymoon was over and was staring down not just elimination after 3 matches but the sack as he went to face the Czechs.

He responded so well, he swallowed his pride and called up Carsley, he ignored that clown Robson and picked Paul McShane who he believed in. Those were two key decisions that I think most managers wouldn't have made and I think if it wasn't for those two decisions we'd have been eliminated after 3 games.

He had a lot of balls too. Taking Duff off when they were chasing Germany, not being intimidated by Liam Miller, playing Andy Reid in the centre, some nice ideas like the American trip for youngsters or the Portugal training facility. Bringing Terry Dixon into the spotlight so early. He was in many ways an exciting and ambitious manager.

The point is that he's got ability, he made far more mistakes than he did positive contributions that's for sure but isn't that what experience rectifies? He certainly could be a fantastic manager some day.

What are you talking about?

Calling up Carsley wasn't swallowing his pride, he had to pick him. And the fact that Carsley wasn't in the original squad, but then is immediately made the mainstay of the midfield shows how clueless he is. He was forced in to picking McShane due to injuries and suspensions. If he had really wanted to pick McShane as CB against Cyprus only for big bad Bobby to talk the worldwise Stan out of it; why wasn't McShane on the bench in Cyprus. Regardless, McShane produced an okish performance, and has since gone on to show he wont have a long term future as an international CB.

Why is taking off one of our most dangerous players against Germany considered a plus point? A training trip to Portugal eh - how did Staunton ever come up with such a groundbreakingly novel idea?

Staunton will never make it management, how could anyone take him seriously? There is absolutely no way in hell that he "could become a fantastic manager some day"

**eirebhoy** · 04/02/2008, 4:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jicked

Regardless, McShane produced an okish performance, and has since gone on to show he wont have a long term future as an international CB.

It was a lot better than okish. Regarded by many as one of the best ever debuts for Ireland. Anyway, I don't want to get into a debate on McShane.

I think himself and Dunne make an excellent partnership as I've said lots of times by now.

**Den Perry** · 04/02/2008, 4:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ciaran

One thing I would say about Stan is what he did after the Cyprus match. He was cornered, the honeymoon was over and was staring down not just elimination after 3 matches but the sack as he went to face the Czechs.

He responded so well, he swallowed his pride and called up Carsley, he ignored that clown Robson and picked Paul McShane who he believed in. Those were two key decisions that I think most managers wouldn't have made and I think if it wasn't for those two decisions we'd have been eliminated after 3 games.

He had a lot of balls too. Taking Duff off when they were chasing Germany, not being intimidated by Liam Miller, playing Andy Reid in the centre, some nice ideas like the American trip for youngsters or the Portugal training facility. Bringing Terry Dixon into the spotlight so early. He was in many ways an exciting and ambitious manager.

The point is that he's got ability, he made far more mistakes than he did positive contributions that's for sure but isn't that what experience rectifies? He certainly could be a fantastic manager some day.

Ciaran, are you off your head? Picked McShane? He was at fault for the czech goal, and everybody got carried away with him because he was decent in that game. Now I think it has been proved that he is nowhere near international class...some peoples opinions never cease to amaze me

**Drumcondra 69er** · 04/02/2008, 5:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

Kevin Blackwell deserves no small amount of credit for what he managed to do at Leeds. Most people out there haven't a clue, not a friggin clue, of the conditions he worked under ...and got them to a play-off final doing it.

No silk purse/sows ear analogy does justice to it. Roy Keanes achievement in getting Sunderland up despite giving everyone else a five match head start and Billy Davies taking a terrible Derby team up aren't a patch on what Blackwell managed.

Sorry mate that's that utter ******. He had a higher budget then most of that league and failed. He bombed out all the young players coming through (Andy Keogh for example) and replaced them with journeymen like Paul Butler and Sean Gregan. Wouldn't play Aaron Lennon until he was forced to by injuries. He played Healy on the wing and left him on the bench for the play off to play one up front and produced the worst tactics I've witnessed at a game this side of some of Stan's games. Did you see Leeds's form from March till the end of the season the year they went to the play off final? Totally choked when they had automatic promotion in their sights. That carried onto the next season and the lack of basic fitness in that squad was a major factor in them going down last year. He allowed the likes of Butler way too much leeway and left a majorly split dressing room as a result. And his team played some of the worst football ever seen at Elland Road. He may have had difficult conditions under Bates but his constant spin and bull**** he spouted to the media ('Only me and Gary Kelly here' etc) was embarrassing and totally untrue. The squad Leeds had at the start of their first season in teh Championship was good enough to go up. The man was a clown.

**Den Perry** · 04/02/2008, 5:26 PM

couldn't agree drumcondra. blackwell was and is a t wat

**oldyouth** · 04/02/2008, 6:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sligo Hornet

Don't panic....Stan's role will only be the same as at Walsall..i.e. putting out cones, collecting bibs etc.....Gary Mc will see you alright!

Thanks Sligo Hornet I need reassurance. The radio tonight has it that he was The Gaffer, now he is The Go For

**OwlsFan** · 05/02/2008, 5:28 PM

See what happens if you put enough spin out there about yourself

You get your old job back of putting out the cones which is more than I ever thought he would.

Lesson in life there. Try and put a positive spin on the most negative things and the world is your oyster or at least your cone.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 05/02/2008, 5:49 PM

Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Sorry mate that's that utter ******. He had a higher budget then most of that league and failed. He bombed out all the young players coming through (Andy Keogh for example) and replaced them with journeymen like Paul Butler and Sean Gregan. Wouldn't play Aaron Lennon until he was forced to by injuries. He played Healy on the wing and left him on the bench for the play off to play one up front and produced the worst tactics I've witnessed at a game this side of some of Stan's games. Did you see Leeds's form from March till the end of the season the year they went to the play off final? Totally choked when they had automatic promotion in their sights. That carried onto the next season and the lack of basic fitness in that squad was a major factor in them going down last year. He allowed the likes of Butler way too much leeway and left a majorly split dressing room as a result. And his team played some of the worst football ever seen at Elland Road. He may have had difficult conditions under Bates but his constant spin and bull**** he spouted to the media ('Only me and Gary Kelly here' etc) was embarrassing and totally untrue. The squad Leeds had at the start of their first season in teh Championship was good enough to go up. The man was a clown.

I never said the guy was Rommel when it came to tactics. Yes they staggered into the play-offs when they might've gone up automatically. Yes he played Healy out of position and yes he should've given more young lads a chance. But there was also a real fear Leeds could drop another division such was the gutting going on. For better AND worse he bought bargain bucket players he reckoned could stop the rot and create a platform to build on. He also uncovered a part time playing/auto-windscreen fitter who could score for the hell of it and managed to keep a team competetive when half the squad were on 500 quid week-to-week contracts which the club were defaulting payment upon.