Lisbon Treaty

[John83]

Lucinda Creighton on RTE just basically said working class voters rejected the treaty because they were stupid racists and middle class voters didn't because they more astute.

Could you have a stab at a verbatum quote please?

[noby]

Anyone know do they open boxes in chronological order?

And how would they do that?

Early polls might have been from Dublin city centre, where the No vote is stronger

[GavinZac]

And as we know from the helpful Libertas posters, Lucinda Creighton is the voice of the Yes side.

[Sheridan]

Identified hysterical fear of cheap foreign labour as the reason for No votes in working class areas, indicative of the "social divide" and "terrifying."

[Macy]

Could you have a stab at a verbatum quote please?

It actually wasn't far off!

[Ringo]

updated as the morning goes on.

Carlow-Kilkenny
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 51%/ No 49%
Comment: Overall quite even throughout constituency

Cavan-Monaghan
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 45%/ No 55%

AdvertisementClare
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 50%/ No 50%
Comment: Local feeling No could shade it


Cork East
Boxes: 100%
Prediction None
Comment: Pattern for a No vote


Cork North-Central
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 35%/ No 65%

Cork North-West
Boxes: 100%
Prediction None
Comment: Pattern for a No majority


Cork South-Central
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 45%/ No 55%


Cork South-West
Boxes: 100%
Prediction None
Comment: Pattern for a No majority


Donegal North-East
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 42%/ No 58%

Donegal South-West
Boxes: 80%
Prediction Yes 45%/ No 55%

Dublin Central
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 43%/ No 57%

Dublin Mid-West
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 51%/ No 49%

Dublin North
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 50%/ No 50%

Dublin North-Central
Boxes: 95%
Prediction Yes 44%/ No 56%

Dublin North-East
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 42%/ No 58%
Comment: Donaghmede area 40%/60%


Dublin North-West
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 38%/ No 62%

Dublin South
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 60%/ No 40%

Dublin South-Central
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 37%/ No 63%

Dublin South-East
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 60%/ No 40%

Dublin South-West
Boxes: 50%
Prediction Yes 40%/ No 60%

Dublin West
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 48%/ No 52%

Dún Laoghaire/Rathdown
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 60%/ No 40%

Galway East
Boxes: 90%
Prediction Yes 40%/ No 60%
Comment: In country areas the count is very close


Galway West
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 46%/ No 64%

Kerry North
Boxes: 70%
Prediction Yes 40%/ No 60%

Kerry South
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 40%/ No 60%


Kildare North
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 53%/ No 47%

Kildare South
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 52%/ No 48%


Laois-Offaly
Boxes: 59%
Prediction Yes 52%/ No 48%
Comment: Expected Yes majority


Limerick East
Boxes: 100%
Prediction None

Limerick West
Boxes: 100%
Prediction None
Comment: Newcastlewest 64% No

Longford-Westmeath
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 47%/ No 53%
Comment: Tally may not be reliable


Louth
Boxes: 47%
Prediction None

Mayo
Boxes: 90%
Prediction Yes 40%/ No 60%

Meath East
Boxes: 21%
Prediction Yes 50%/ No 50%
Comment: Too close to call


Meath West
Boxes: 50%
Prediction Yes 40%/ No 60%

Roscommon-South Leitrim
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 45%/ No 55%

Sligo-North Leitrim
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 40%/ No 60%

Tipperary North
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 45%/ No 55%

Tipperary South
Boxes: 83%
Prediction Yes 49%/ No 51%

Waterford
Boxes: 42%
Prediction Yes 47%/ No 53%
Comment: Strong No in urban areas

Wexford
Boxes: 100%
Prediction Yes 40%/ No 60%


Wicklow
Boxes:
Prediction Yes / No

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0613/eulisbon1.html?rss

looks like a NO

http://www.rte.ie/business/2008/0613/euro.html


Euro Falling

[Macy]

If this is a No vote will be a very bad start for Brian Cowan.

He should've been campaigning instead of getting rat arsed in Tullamore. FF got side tracked on Aherns lap of honour and Cowens victory parade. Heard a point made on RTE that the general election campaign will effective start after next years locals with a view to a 2012 election, yet they thought they'd get away with 3 weeks for this?

[Réiteoir]

Waterford rejects the Treaty - 54-46

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0613/eulisbon.html

[Lionel Ritchie]

RTE reports suggest that the Yes vote is gaining on No, **has mental pictures of Lionel Ritchie as the punter in Paddy Powers tearing up his 'sure thing' ticket and stomping on it before marching out to the sounds of Germans doing a jig**

My docket? Safe in Pocket. Check Ringo's data from RTE on the other Lisbon thread. Blow it up ref.

[Dr. Ogba]

Voted yes. Don't take well to scaremongering and patronising campaigning (the monkey "can't see you etc..." and the "don't vote for another turkey" one)

[pete]

RTE still predicting strong No victory.

Will be very difficult to analysis the reasons why people voted No as so many different opinions.

[Schumi]

I only mentioned as I did not care for old wan telling me her maiden name was the same as my surname. Serious job demarcation too - one person to read the card & one to operate the pen & ruler.

They must have been multi-tasking in my place. The same guy did both.

[mypost]

Going well at the moment, but not declaring any result until the last of the 43 results comes in. I remember the abortion referendum in '02, where despite people declaring the result early, it wasn't until the very last constituency that decided the outcome.

[anto1208]

46% yes 53% no at the moment .

[Aberdonian Stu]

Yeah looks like a win for No but with a tighter margin than at present, probably somewhere between 51.5-48.5 and 52-48.

[pete]

They must have been multi-tasking in my place. The same guy did both.

Making the rest of them look bad.

[Macy]

If there is a Lisbon II vote, all the No side will have to do is broadcast all the sanctimonious, condescending crap (and in some cases purely bitter venom) that the Yes side are coming out with today, and it'll be an even wider no margin. All this guff about why it was lost, lies on the no side etc - all they have to do is listen to themselves and see why people didn't trust them or vote with them.

[deecay]

Great result,if only the working class could vote for themselves in general elections by not voting in fianna fail/fianna gael.

Would also like to say HAHA to all yes middle class people

[jebus]

Great result,if only the working class could vote for themselves in general elections by not voting in fianna fail/fianna gael.

Would also like to say HAHA to all yes middle class people

Yeah I'm sure that 5 bedroom house they have will give them some comfort though, how is the credit crunch by the way?*



What is/isn't working class these days?

[pete]

What is/isn't working class these days?

People who work at polling centres? well half them anyway