Limerick, Athlone and Kilkenny

**neutrino** · 10/01/2008, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by gufcfan

you can't give out 50k to a club, just because they are in trouble.

Im no fan of the FAI, but bailing out them lot would send a dangerous message to other clubs that "sure it'll be grand, fran gavin will bail us out".

Everything barr a handout should be explored...

You are right. The FAI however should be talking to government about a whole host of intiatives to help promote football in this country - not act as a dictating enforcer- this should range from tax breaks to a multitude of grants for various different things. If the FAI cant run the league better than the man off the street then what hope is there.

**Raheny Red** · 10/01/2008, 1:48 PM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

But Raheny Red, I thought ours was your favourite away ground??

It is

- a few Stonehouse and Big Time bars will take some beaten!

**jebus** · 10/01/2008, 1:50 PM

Originally Posted by exiled_gufc_fan

Think: Luton Town, Leeds United, AFC Bournemouth

Yeah but considering Leeds, Luton and Bournemouth are bigger than the biggest clubs in this land they're not an ideal comparison. If Ebbsfleet hit the skids on the other hand then I'll sit up and take notice

**Claret Murph** · 10/01/2008, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Yeah but considering Leeds, Luton and Bournemouth are bigger than the biggest clubs in this land they're not an ideal comparison. If Ebbsfleet hit the skids on the other hand then I'll sit up and take notice

But with Ebbsfleet they have 50,000 people who own the club so a wip round would not be too hard on them .

But I hate seeing Iirsh clubs in trouble , it's getting close to having a Dublin league and no one else .

Yes a sorry story indeed , I hope all 3 clubs will be able to turn it around .....

**rambler14** · 10/01/2008, 2:04 PM

Shocking stuff if it's true.
It'll be a shame to see Athlone and Kilkenny go out of the league.
With Limerick it's just a never ending saga.

**placid casual** · 10/01/2008, 2:13 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

Adding a third tier to the league doesn't seem to fit in with your contraction theory.

who's to say this isnt a devious plan by the FAI to bankrupt those clubs already on the margins. its been said here that the financial implication of fielding a reserve side could be the difference between sink or swim.

as a fan of the best run club (now at least) ,in the country i know all about assistance for financial troubles.
thing is we had a plan to get oursleves out of the latrine,have stuck to it and hopefully(inshallah) we will blossom in the years to come .

on a personal note .i hope limerick survive .they should kidnap your man jp's horses or something and get some decent ransom

**Battery Rover** · 10/01/2008, 2:36 PM

Originally Posted by rambler14

Shocking stuff if it's true.
It'll be a shame to see Athlone and Kilkenny go out of the league.
With Limerick it's just a never ending saga.

We just have to get through the licensing. The ground is worth over 10 million so €50k isn't an issue.

IMHO it is the best thing that has happened to us as it will show we can't buy a team and that the club can't survive without being part of the community.

**passerrby** · 10/01/2008, 3:34 PM

maybe the G6 will help out.

**sadloserkid** · 10/01/2008, 4:30 PM

Originally Posted by Tir Oilean

As regards the FAI digging clubs out this would be a bad practice. A help up rather than a hand out should be what happens. Clearly Limerick is a big soccer town so they should get priority from the FAI in terms of club promotion and maybe some extra funding for this but by covering debts nothing will be learned about how to build the club up to its former glory.

This is the first time in about 2 years I've agreed with something a Galway fan said. If we can't keep our house in order then it's nobody's responsibility to bail us out. We'll survive for another year at least and the cycle will continue to perpetuate forever and ever amen.

**geezer** · 10/01/2008, 4:52 PM

its been said before to limerick fans, why not set up a supporters trust, The Gufc trust contributed about 42-45k this year to its club. Dont forget this excludes the season tickets they buy, the people they drag to games with them and other promotion like posting posters etc and stewarding activities they involve themselves in. It can be the difference between staying afloat and going under.

**jebus** · 10/01/2008, 5:41 PM

Originally Posted by geezer

its been said before to limerick fans, why not set up a supporters trust, The Gufc trust contributed about 42-45k this year to its club. Dont forget this excludes the season tickets they buy, the people they drag to games with them and other promotion like posting posters etc and stewarding activities they involve themselves in. It can be the difference between staying afloat and going under.

You would never be able to get Limerick people to hand over money to a senior football team in Limerick after what happened with Fr Joe Young, simple as that, it's one of the reasons we haven't been able to draw back a lot of the old support from the glory days, there's just too much dislike and mistrust towards the club. Ditto trying to get JP McManus on board, The Priest put the skids on him helping out again the last time JP gave money to the club

**atfconline** · 10/01/2008, 6:48 PM

Originally Posted by Battery Rover

We just have to get through the licensing. The ground is worth over 10 million so �50k isn't an issue.

IMHO it is the best thing that has happened to us as it will show we can't buy a team and that the club can't survive without being part of the community.

Ground cannot be sold by the Club. If it is, a lot of people get money before the Club does.

**Battery Rover** · 10/01/2008, 7:11 PM

Agree with you there atfconline but with an asset like that there is no way the club could fold

**The Man Himself** · 10/01/2008, 7:11 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

You would never be able to get Limerick people to hand over money to a senior football team in Limerick after what happened with Fr Joe Young, simple as that, it's one of the reasons we haven't been able to draw back a lot of the old support from the glory days, there's just too much dislike and mistrust towards the club. Ditto trying to get JP McManus on board, The Priest put the skids on him helping out again the last time JP gave money to the club

limerick never had a big following in soccer ever since they left the markets field (early 80s),
with rugby and gaa so big in the city its hard to see people coming out and supporting the soccer team, i think its dooms day for eircom league football in limerick.

**Lim till i die** · 10/01/2008, 7:34 PM

Originally Posted by geezer

The Gufc trust contributed about 42-45k this year to its club.

And we contributed I would estimate about 15k to our club which when you consider the relative sizes of budget/time we had to organise was bloody good going IMO

Fat lot of good they managed to do with it.

**A face** · 10/01/2008, 7:36 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Ditto trying to get JP McManus on board, The Priest put the skids on him helping out again the last time JP gave money to the club

What happened there?

**Lim till i die** · 10/01/2008, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Man Himself

limerick never had a big following in soccer ever since they left the markets field (early 80s)

Not True

i think its dooms day for eircom league football in limerick

Has anyone on Foot.ie ever cared what The Man Himself thinks??

All this hysteria based on one crap $hit article which is lacking in even most basic facts.

50k shutting the club down FFS

Someone above described Limerick as a never ending saga. Fair Comment but through all the garbage how often has the club actually folded for financial reaons.....

**Lim till i die** · 10/01/2008, 7:41 PM

Originally Posted by A face

What happened there?

A man and a bag of money went to America.

Only one returned*

*Apparently such is the rumour. This of course is not the opinion of LTID or any of his subsidiaries