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    Quote Originally Posted by amaccann View Post
    No thanks. We can do better.
    seconded

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    The fact that he was involved with Limerick means he will feel some affinity with ireland and as was mentioned earlier he would see it as a step up. 16/1 id say thats worth a tenner.

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    Exclamation Big Sam!

    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Hark-back to the Charlton era. Lump it up style of football pare excellence, but may well be successful.

    Its a damning indictment of the quality of manager we can attract that he is one of the better candidates.

    Someone rang into The Last Word this evening and suggested hiring him on the premise that he could convince Kevin Nolan to declare for Ireland....

    I sometimes think we get exactly what some of our fans deserve.
    Would have to agree you cant condone his footballing style!I remember one of the lads in the Charlton era admitting after playing a game for the 21s under Maurice Setters !(who )?that they needed a surgical collar ,because the ball was always up in the air ,so basically if we are looking at Sam then this is a step backwards!Anyway if the 3 Amigos have carried out any interviews then the decision must already have been made ,or were they waiting on their man Sam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb View Post
    .....He also has League of Ireland management experience when he managed Limerick in the early 90s, so that's a plus!
    Nearly as a much of a plus as someone who drank a pint of Guinness in Dublin once

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bit O'Red View Post
    Would be perfect for the Irish job in my opinion, hopefully the FAI pull out all the stops to get him and his back-room staff.
    He has a bigger back room staff than he had players. No way could FAI afford half of them or actually need them.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bit O'Red View Post
    I can't believe that Newcastle have sacked him already, ridiculous decision, he's one of the top managers in Britain, he just needed time.
    How much time would he need with us? Just enough time to fill his pockets!

    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    You appoint the man with the best cv and with a good track record.
    Hardly Allardyce then!

    Quote Originally Posted by DotTV View Post
    Why are some people getting so excited about a recent failure.
    I never understood why some people are keen to champion the cause of any manager who has f*cked up his most recent job.
    Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.

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    Percentage football doesn't appeal to me I'm afraid. I thought sacking Big Sam after 24 games is bad form and crazy if you ask me but I don't think he's the right man for us. Then again I'd prefer him to Kenny, O'Leary and Sanchez.
    "If God had meant football to be played in the air, he'd have put grass in the sky." Brian Clough.

    You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!

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    File under 'd' for 'desparation'. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Sam Allardyci, no thanks.

    If you thought Kerr's teams were boring to watch.....
    I don't care how boring we play if he gets us to South Africa 2010..

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    Newcastle's owner has confirmed he wants the next Newcastle manager to be British. El Tel anyone? Possibly with Shearer as his assistant?
    If Big Sam's sacking is to be Ireland's gain, this would be the ideal manner!

    On the other hand, it's another big job with a salary the FAI can't hope to match, and, as was the case with Hodgson, Newcastle are more than likely looking at the top end of the manager market that we are hoping to take from - Deschamps, Houllier, etc
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    Definitely got to be a contender. We could do better? Like who? Daglish? Brady? Venables? McCarthy? All the other 5hite that has been touted in the press?

    Long ball hype is a fallacy - direct yes, but not long ball - playing with midfielders like Speed, Nolan, Diouf from deep they could pass the ball as well. Perfect age, as he has nothing to prove and must realise that he is never going to get a punt for the England job now, so this is the best chance that he has at international management.

    4-5-1 would be a good option for us now anyway. Doyle up front, Keane & McGeady/Ireland from deep with Carsley in his rightful role as a defensive midfielder, protecting a questionable defence. This could well see us through to South Africa. Couldn't give a monkeys how we get there, as long as we do.

    Failing that, I'd love to see a Houllier/Collins combination - finally a few candidates that we can get excited about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue-Army View Post
    I don't care how boring we play if he gets us to South Africa 2010..
    Exactly, who do you think we are?? Do people really think that we could out-play the likes of Italy with our silky beautiful football???

    GET REAL

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    under allardyce ireland would go into every game super prepared - we would know all about the montnegro left back. the newcastle players didnt like this, they just wanted to kick a ball round a five a side pitch and have a laugh.

    allardyce could be brian kerr all over again, which isnt necessarily a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eekers View Post
    allardyce could be brian kerr all over again, which isnt necessarily a bad thing.
    You think not qualifying for the next 2 tournaments in a row "isn't necessarily a bad thing"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eekers View Post
    under allardyce ireland would go into every game super prepared - we would know all about the montnegro left back. the newcastle players didnt like this, they just wanted to kick a ball round a five a side pitch and have a laugh.

    allardyce could be brian kerr all over again, which isnt necessarily a bad thing.
    if Newcastle were so tactically astute and well prepared they wouldn't have failed to beat Derby twice!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    Nearly as a much of a plus as someone who drank a pint of Guinness in Dublin once
    The point of my comment was that he has lived here and worked in football for a year and seemed to enjoy it. I think if he were to be approached by the panel, his time in Ireland would certainly be something that he would reflect upon favourably and might warm him to the position of national manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb View Post
    The point of my comment was that he has lived here and worked in football for a year and seemed to enjoy it. I think if he were to be approached by the panel, his time in Ireland would certainly be something that he would reflect upon favourably and might warm him to the position of national manager.
    Ian Paisley visited Dublin too

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bit O'Red View Post
    Exactly, who do you think we are?? Do people really think that we could out-play the likes of Italy with our silky beautiful football???

    GET REAL
    What has the type of football we play got to do with anything? WE have the money to pay for nearly any manager we can think of, so why should be settle for Premiership has-beens, also-rans and never was?

    Oh sorry I forgot, we're Irish, we should be thankful we can afford a football or something.

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    WE have the money to pay for nearly any manager we can think

    U must be taking the pish??? What was Kerr on? €300k a year, which top class manager would work for that?

    Not that I think Big Sam is a Premiership has been but at least he has managerial experience in the top flight, not like the last 3 guys before they got the job. Milwall, St. Pats and Walsall???
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    Quote Originally Posted by amaccann View Post
    What has the type of football we play got to do with anything? WE have the money to pay for nearly any manager we can think of, so why should be settle for Premiership has-beens, also-rans and never was?

    Oh sorry I forgot, we're Irish, we should be thankful we can afford a football or something.

    Excuse my ignorance but where is this money the fai have to pay nearly any manager?

    Have you any idea how much Ferguson or Wegner earn a year?

    Have you any idea how much the FAI generate in a year and where it is spent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bit O'Red View Post
    WE have the money to pay for nearly any manager we can think

    U must be taking the pish??? What was Kerr on? €300k a year, which top class manager would work for that?

    Not that I think Big Sam is a Premiership has been but at least he has managerial experience in the top flight, not like the last 3 guys before they got the job. Milwall, St. Pats and Walsall???
    An exaggeration, but you can't still claim that Big Sam is as good as it's going to get. Am I to assume then that the likes of Houllier or Deschamps (the latest to appear on the bookies odds) are too good for the likes of us?

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    Not at all amaccann, but I would prefer Alardyce to those two to be honest with you. I can relate his Bolton team to Ireland, not world beaters but plenty of commitment and a solid side when well organised.

    Ask the Liverpool fans what they think of Houllier.

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