Its just a ridiculous ploy that only serves to squeeze out the smaller clubs from both codes. As superfrank says either everyone join up to it or scrap the idea. But knowing the Fai they will muck it up AGAIN
Completely disgree.Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Full-time football is not, and looks like it never will be, sustainable under the current model.
Full-time football has a better chance of being sustainable under an AIL model due to the cash on offer (lets leave aside the permanence of this cashflow). Thats not to say that definitively it will be sustainable, but at least it has a chance.
That makes it important.
The proposers admitted last week at the meeting that they have not put together a business plan yet, so on what basis are you claiming it has a chance?
Common sense.
Wave a wad of money and everything will be better?
Of course.
I never said an AIL wasn't important, ORA. I said it isn't as important as people make out. Big difference. You also say "Let's leave aside the permanence of this cashflow". Rather a big thing to leave aside, don't you think?
The it is simply an AIL in any form.
I agree with Pineapple Stu to an extent. I would like to see it happen, think it would be good for the league but it's no the be all and end all. There'l still be an awful lot to do and a lot of challenges.
If it didnt happen I ain't say I'd be all that bothered. Yeah the money and tv coverage sounds good but it's not everything
Well a wad of money would be a good start, if it is spent on infrastructure, marketing and proper administration in addition to players wages.Wave a wad of money and everything will be better?
As I said, I'm yet to be convinced any of the above will get Joe-Premership fan off his barstool but its worth a go IMHO.
The fact that the plans aren't fully thought out doesn't unduly worry me. Someone other than the IL/IFA and FAI had to take the lead as turkeys don't vote for Christmas. I don't mind who takes it forward to fruitition but the end state of an AIL is very much where I see football going.
By that logic, an AIL will be entirely dependent on a sponsor putting up a lot of cash, presumably in the hope of recouping said cash from TV advertising?
So if the TV revenues fail to generate sufficient money, the sponsorship will reduce or end, and the AIL may end?
Not necessarily. If it takes off with a bang and creates interest it may draw investors to individual clubs also
And if it doesn't? football clubs being football clubs, expect a lot of ambitious overspending in the expectation of the gravy train rolling into town; and if the league fails, clubs will go to wall, leaving us with two drastically weakened leagues.
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Some more info in this article:
Backers of the proposed All-Ireland league are planning to unveil a prize pool of over €10 million, according to a report in Tuesday's Irish Daily Star.
http://www.setantasports.com/en/Spor...reland-league/
Yes.
I don't know enough about the economics of the Irish League but the Eircom League has and is unsustainable in its current shape. The more clubs have to lose the riskier something becomes. Maybe I'm a lone voice here but I don't see that we have a lot to lose.
Why is the Eircom League unsustainable in its current shape?
And thats differs how from what we have seen in the last 10-15 years?
I thought Shelbourne would have been reason enough?
Boom-bust cycles, bankruptcies, winding up orders, unpaid wages, promised capex than never materialises (how many new stadiums have been promised and how many delivered?).
Same thing, bigger scale: we could see a half- dozen Shelbourne's all at once if the tap was turned off; remember what happened in the Championship when the ITV money was pulled?And thats differs how from what we have seen in the last 10-15 years?
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Surely all of those things are down to poor management by the clubs, not the way the league is set up?
Why are clubs any more likely to manage themselves better in an AIL than in the Eircom League?
And how will the inclusion of Linfield, Glentoran etc. change this cycle for the majority of Irish clubs? How will this benefit Limerick 37 for example? Because the exclusion from the top division could prove fatal for the clubs left out
How likely do think it would be that the money wouldn't be entirely spent on wages? Especially as a major driver of all this talk seems to be the 65% wage cap.
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