G6 stay defiant

[Lux Interior]

The Sunday Times said that the plans were to have 8 teams from the eircom League and 4 teams from the Irish League.

If any sort of breakaway were to occur, this would seem a fair ratio, based on ability.

I think the Setanta has shown that, in the main, Irish League clubs, most pointedly the one I follow - have struggled in the 3 Setanta Cups this season.

[GavinZac]

You can rest assured that of the so-called 'G6' only Derry City would carry any sort of gravitas with IL supporters. The only other 'name of note' - Shamrock Rovers - are conspicious by their absence.

yes, but this is a marketing exercise. NI clubs are being used to create a buzz down here, not the other way around. truly viable professionalism in NI will take a lot more than greater visibility to their market.

[jebus]

What a lovely load of nonsense to walk back to after a few internet free days. Anyway the G6 can **** off for all most of us care, and an AIL without Linfield or Shamrock Rovers won't work, as both are still seen as the two biggest clubs in their respective countries by joe public. Until both of those clubs formally announce they will enter this it will remain a non-runner.

This smacks of the 6 clubs (bar my use of that name above I will refuse to use that laughable moniker from here on in) crying about what THEY SIGNED UP FOR, as the Galway lads used to put it to me in my anti-FAI rants this time last year, and are now trying to persuade the FAI that they do indeed have some level of power, which is clear to no-one but themselves.

Anyway leave them form their special league, and lets see how they do when the FAI kick them out of Europe, and block Setanta, RTE and TV3 from doing buisness with them by threatening to not negotiate the national team's contract with them ever again.

[GavinZac]

Anyway leave them form their special league, and lets see how they do when the FAI kick them out of Europe, and block Setanta, RTE and TV3 from doing buisness with them by threatening to not negotiate the national team's contract with them ever again.

That wouldn't work, given the government's protection of Irish national team games.

[half_full]

Yes, but you need to weigh the value of clubs against the others. Are small part time clubs like Harps or Waterford or Shamrocks really that important in the greater scheme of things? Starting from a clean slate, are they really necessary to seduce the average paying customer? Perhaps in time they'll accept their place on the lower rungs of the new ladder as a better position than slightly elevated in a meaningless league, but for their sake you'd hope they do it before someone decided to set up Tallaght FC or Waterford Athletic and align themselves with, as Kevin Doyle would say, 'proper clubs' and professionalism.

Ok say G6 plus the four IL clubs go for this. Dungannon/Newry will be no where near good enough (no disrespect meant there). No Europe or Relegation/Promotion. It's not as if the clubs threating to leave are G14. There would be plenty of big clubs left: Rovers
Sligo, Harps, Dundalk, Shels. The average punter recognises these clubs far more than the IL ones.

I can't see any sensible clubs wanting to go near this, but fair enough if anyone can see the merit in it theres not much stopping them.

[incident]

The FAI don't want it. The IFA don't want it. Most clubs don't want it. Uefa certainly don't want it.

The FAI do want it, and have done so for a long time now.

Most of the clubs who've stated a view have come out in favour. The only club to publically object so far has been Linfield.

I suspect that UEFA probably haven't really thought a whole lot about it - certainly they haven't given any public indication as to their feelings.

You're right though, the IFA don't want it. So that's 1 out of 4 you got right.

[passerrby]

The FAI do
Most of the clubs who've stated a view have come out in favour. The only club to publically object so far has been Linfield.

your other points are arguable but your above comment is so full of crap six clubs in the Eircom league and three clubs fron the irish league (excluding the Biggest club).the rest think this is daft plan

[osarusan]

2 questions -

Will the FAI and IFA give this their blessing? If not, I can't see it happening as there will be no European places available.

Would an All-Ireland league mean that the island could only have one national side?

I know that Liechtenstein have special dispensation to play as a league team, but I think they are an exception to the rule.

If the "1 league = 1 National team rule" applies, then surely the two governing bodies will be against it. And if they are, I can't see it going ahead.

[incident]

your other points are arguable but your above comment is so full of crap six clubs in the Eircom league and three clubs fron the irish league (excluding the Biggest club).the rest think this is daft plan

So which clubs, apart from Linfield, have either directly or indirectly opposed the idea?

By my count, several clubs (both sides of the border) are known to support the concept, Linfield are known to oppose it, and the overwhelming majority have so far stayed quiet and can't be counted on either side.

[passerrby]

So which clubs, apart from Linfield, have either directly or indirectly opposed the idea?

By my count, several clubs (both sides of the border) are known to support the concept, Linfield are known to oppose it, and the overwhelming majority have so far stayed quiet and can't be counted on either side.

G6 .....speaks for its self does it

[incident]

G6 .....speaks for its self does it

So basically you can't name a club other than Linfield that's actually opposed to the idea?

I'm not claiming the idea will gain universal support, or end up happening - but to try and suggest that "most" clubs are against it at this stage is laughable.

Several clubs support it. One club is against it. It looks like the vast majority seem to be holding fire until they know what's actually on the table.

[DmanDmythDledge]

So which clubs, apart from Linfield, have either directly or indirectly opposed the idea?

By my count, several clubs (both sides of the border) are known to support the concept, Linfield are known to oppose it, and the overwhelming majority have so far stayed quiet and can't be counted on either side.

Linfield are expected to attend this Friday's meeting.

[Dodge]

Anyway leave them form their special league, and lets see how they do when the FAI kick them out of Europe, and block Setanta, RTE and TV3 from doing buisness with them by threatening to not negotiate the national team's contract with them ever again.

Does anyone actually think the clubs will go ahead with this without the backing of all clubs on the island and both associations. Its nothing but a bargaining chip. On the TV deal, does anyone know how much clubs will receive for their games being on TV?

[DmanDmythDledge]

On the TV deal, does anyone know how much clubs will receive for their games being on TV?

Sky are interested so presumably there will be an unprecedented level of tv revenue.

[half_full]

The FAI do want it, and have done so for a long time now.

Most of the clubs who've stated a view have come out in favour. The only club to publically object so far has been Linfield.

I suspect that UEFA probably haven't really thought a whole lot about it - certainly they haven't given any public indication as to their feelings.

You're right though, the IFA don't want it. So that's 1 out of 4 you got right.

Why would the FAI want it? Same for the IFA. The clubs who have stated a view are the ones in favour, because every other club knows its mad. Uefa don't want this as it would set a precedent for clubs breaking away-the last thing they want.

[Schumi]

Sky are interested so presumably there will be an unprecedented level of tv revenue.

6k per game?!

[Buller]

6k per game?!

An astounding increase on current levels of 5k! Well worth it...

[BohsPartisan]

We're busy.

Very busy.

Living in the distant past when anyone gave a flying f*ck about your once great side.

[Buller]

Living in the distant past when anyone gave a flying f*ck about your once great side.

Actually we're busy building a future, in case you haven't heard...

[GavinZac]

Actually we're busy building a future, in case you haven't heard...

I thought the government was building it for you because the last owners defaulted and the current ones are hanging in by a thread.

Still though, must be tough being Ireland's first franchise football team. Tallaght has the Shamrocks now though, at least til a better offer for the brand comes in.