QuoteDo we really need any failed Premiership manager, the list is endless?
That's really not how it worked with NI under LS, since I simply don't recall our defenders hoofing it down the middle and certainly never the big guy (Quinn or Lafferty) ever "nodding it out to the wingers". (Granted, Taylor did set up a couple of goals for Healy via a quick punt down the field, but that was an ad hoc response to heavy pressure, where the opposition were caught forward, rather than a pre-planned tactic)Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Sanchez relied heavily on wide players (Gillespie or Jones on the right, Elliott, Brunt or Sproule on the left), who hit a mixture of early crosses, through passes or pull-backs from the byline.
His centre midfield was usually a combination of a ball-winner (Johnson or Clingan) alongside a more creative player (Davis).
In all cases, they were instructed to get the ball forward quickly, but it was as often to Healy cutting in from either flank or timing a late run as it was to the big guy, it was as often via the wings as it was through the middle and it was more often along the deck than up in the air, since regardless of position, Healy was the usual target. As such, his goals were of every type (close-in, from distance, headers, either foot, through on the keeper, chipped from the edge of the box etc).
Therefore, the key was in Healy's mobility, perpetual work rate and accuracy, with the player on the ball to get it forward quickly and all the other players instructed to provide physical support and take defenders away from him.
As UEFA's stats show, Healy was actually flagged offside more times than any other player in the Euro qualifiers:
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/eur...t=o/index.html
For most players, you'd just say that he was inept, except that he scored more goals than anyone else:
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/eur...=gs/index.html
He also had the 3rd highest number of attempts on target:
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/eur...=sg/index.html
However, when it came to the number of shots off target, he was only 10th equal (alongside Robbie Keane!)
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/eur...=sw/index.html
What this says is that Healy worked incredibly hard, forever pushing defences to the limit all along the front line, so that when he did get the ball away from a defender within scoring range, his extremely accurate finishing (i.e not just on target, but beyond the keeper) did the rest.
And the other significant statistic about Healy is that he played every one of the 13 scoreless games before Sanchez took over.
Therefore, it is clear to me that with NI, Sanchez quickly found a system to suit the players available to him, without that system being Route One (long ball).
Which is why I feel that if he were given the ROI job, he'd also have to work with the players available to him, and therefore have to find the system which best suited them.
Moreover, on the question of attitude, he'd quickly sort out those whose attitude is suspect, thereby concentrating on the players he trusted.
If I were Delaney, I'd instruct the Selection Panel to camp out on Sanchez's doorstep every night until he signed, since he's proven with NI that he can transform an underperforming team at international level, and with the better basic talent available to him in the ROI squad, I think he'd be as good a bet to qualify as anyone esle who is realistically available.
But as I say, I doubt if he'd accept
Last edited by EalingGreen; 02/01/2008 at 5:35 PM.
Do we really need any failed Premiership manager, the list is endless?
Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.
If he couldn't transform an underperforming team at Fulham why could he do it for us?
Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.
Did he really get any time with Fulham though in fairness? he saved them from relegation last season, when they looked to be heading down. This season hasnt gone well with him but I dont think he got much time really
He couldn't transform an underperforming team at Fulham given 17 League games, but that is hardly the same as saying he couldn't do it at all.
I accept that it is possible he wasn't up to it, but I don't accept that it was proven. After allowing Sanchez to completely revamp the entire set-up* during the summer, it seems to me that Fayed panicked when it didn't produce instant results.
* - 15 players out + 13 in at a net cost of just under £20 million (= £1.8m per player), plus a whole new coaching team etc.
has Sanchez been interviewed (the media seem to be in the dark as much as does - sweet all rumours doing the rounds)? I'd rather have him Dalglish that is for sure - at least he's done something in this century but I'd have my reservations about his direct stlye of play but at the end of the day we'd judge him on results not style.
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You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
Former Fulham and Northern Ireland boss Lawrie Sanchez is to be interviewed for the vacant Republic of Ireland job.
Sanchez, sacked by Fulham in December, is expected to meet with the three-man panel set up by the FAI to search for a successor to Steve Staunton.
Ray Houghton, Don Givens and Don Howe are expected to meet Sanchez although he is not regarded as a frontrunner.
It is believed the FAI hopes to name a manager before the end of January as the Republic face Brazil on 6 February.
Givens was in Bulgaria on Tuesday with FAI chief executive John Delaney and president David Blood to fiinalise the fixtures for the Republic's forthcoming World Cup qualifying campaign
From BBC
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would you recommend him steve ?
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Before he took over at Northern Ireland. We could only sell out the ground in the very biggest of matches. Players regularly pulled out of the squad, we couldn’t score goals and to hit the nail in the head, we where an embarrassment to International football and ourselves.
Lawrie Sanchez’s took over and his first aim was to get the goal-scoring (or lack of) monkey off our back. He did that in his first game. The next thing he tried to do was start building the confidence in our team and start moving up the rankings. We had a tour of the Caribbean, which was very successful, Healy broke the NI goal scoring record and our confidence grew.
We also beat England, which pushed our confidence through the roof, and the passion and pride was restored.
His style of play was based on Northern Irelands strength. Sanchez seen that David Healy was more effective with a big man next to him. So he stuck James Quinn up front with him even though Quinn wasn’t international standard, it was the only big man at the time we had. So the long ball was effective in that it got bumped up to Quinn, Quinn would knock the defence about the ball falls to Healy and Healy would score.
We later got a few more technically better players coming through (Brunt for example) and Gillespie found his form and spark again and we did change our play to suit that but again because our players are not world class gifted players balls still came in from the deep end. Sanchez then brought Kyle Lafferty in place of Quinn. Lafferty was still very wet behind the ears and imo wasn’t initially good enough, Sanchez obviously seen his potential and he was steadly increased his ability to play at this level.
Anyway my point is Sanchez has a long term goal, but he sets a lot of short term goals to get to his long term goals. (well that’s what he done with NI). He will examine ROI’s strong point and he examine your weak points as well and he’ll set his tactics accordingly.
Fortunately for yourselves, managing the ROI wouldn’t be much different. ROI supporters are similar type of supporters as NI(Passion, noise etc). The big plus with ROI is that you have a far bigger pool of players and also some very good players in top teams. Although I wouldn’t go as far as to say you have world class players.
Personally I think Sanchez would bring back a lot of Irish Passion and with better players than NI(although not as good a team at the moment) I think he’ll run you close to qualifying to the World Cup.
But I don’t think he’ll get the job as there seems to be a few in front of him in the pecking order.
Oh PS: I would have offered Sanchez the job at NI instead of Worthless
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Why wouldn't we take Sanchez? Suddenly we're too good to take a manager who proved he is a quality international manager? Give it a rest, he would be perfect if his international record is anything to go by.
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Sanchez had three great results with Northern Ireland - versus England (who are hughely overrated), Spain and Sweden, all at Windsor Park.
Some Northern Irelasnd fans tend to forget some of the dross he served us up at home and abroad too - absolutely ****e.
I hope he does get the ROI job.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Good point. While a lot of us marvelled at the results garnered in the last campaign, what undone them was the results home and away to Iceland, and away to Latvia. Fair enough he was in charge only for Iceland in Windsor, but we need a manager capable of raising the bar for all games.Sanchez had three great results with Northern Ireland - versus England (who are hughely overrated), Spain and Sweden, all at Windsor Park.
Some Northern Irelasnd fans tend to forget some of the dross he served us up at home and abroad too - absolutely ****e.
I hope he does get the ROI job.
We can't afford any slip ups in this campaign.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
seeing as there talkin about wimbledon old boys, what about Joe Kinnear
Sanchez
Exactly right.
Sanchez did a great job at NI - getting a team of mostly average players to gel as a team. However, his "tactics" were very basic - long ball to a big CF and knock the ball down for Healy.
He was exposed at Fulham - spent a fortune on players but just tried the same tactics as with NI. This doesn't work in the EPL as he found to his cost.
Also, while Healy profited from Sanchez's system at NI (and fair play to him) he is now being exposed as being a chamionship player as opposed to an EPL player. Sanchez also spent a lot of money on other NI players to try and replicate his NI "system" i.e. Hughes, Baird and Davis - to date only Hughes has been any value for money.
The RoI have some very good players (Finnan, Dunne, Reid(s), McGeady, Hunt, Duff, Doyle, Keane). We do not need to rely on the long ball system and wouldn't be utilising our resources to full advantage if we did.
I'm afraid that Sanchez is a "one-trick pony". He shows no ability to alter tactics from his usual formula when it isn't working and has no record of improving really class players by good coaching.
Frankly, for all his off-field antics, I'd rather have Venables who does have a track record of succesfully coaching top class players and is highly regarded as a coach and tactician.
Good luck to Sanchez in the future but he's not the right man for us and I certainly wouldn't be happy if he got the job above Venables or Hoddle or Coppell.
seeing as there talkin about wimbledon old boys, what about Joe Kinnear
Certainly makes a lot more sense than Johnny Giles.
Don't think long-ball Larry Sanchez would be the man for us.
If we still had a Quinn or a Cascarino up front then maybe but we have a team full of ball players (Keane, Doyle, McGeady, Reid, Duff, Ireland, etc) and not particularly big ones either. Don't think we'd be playing to their strengths by launching scud missiles at our front two.
Last edited by Maroon 7; 15/01/2008 at 6:22 PM.
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In over 30 years of watching Northern Ireland, the home defeat by Iceland under Sanchez was one of the most tactically inept managerial performances I have witnessed.
You may recall the Sanchez "hissy fit" when the media here had the audacity to call the performance for what it was - absolutely abysmal.
No doubt that Sanchez give us Norn Iron fans some nights to remember - but some of us don't forget the days and nights under Sanchez when things weren't quite so fantastic.
A quick look at his managerial record with Northern Ireland will reveal some absolute howler results, hidden in amongst the three really good ones.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
No harming but I disagree and he had us top of our group and in a very healthy position.
Worthless took over we got beat by 2 inferior teams on the road because Worthless changed our style of play and wanted to change things for the sake of changing things.
Sanchez done a great job and just because he left us in the middle of a campaign doesn't change that.
Northern Ireland supporters are bitter because he left and 99% where not saying what you are saying now when he was still coaching NI. He done a tremendous job
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Just one small fact:
Even without the benefit of any experimental friendlies, ie. having been chucked in at the deep end after Sanchez bolted, Nigel Worthington's record in charge of his first six Northern Ireland matches is superior to Sanchez's record in his first six games in charge.
Sanchez lacked conviction, confidence and patience.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
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